Question about the Nameless Headers/Exhaust

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I read like the last 10-15 pages of the thread(setting is at the most posts per page so its probably like 20-25 pages if you didnt change the settings).

I saw the dyno's and was wondering why on earth is the dyno numbers so weak compared to other headers? For example. I saw a dyno chart of the headers/exhaust untuned and it only had like 2-3 whp more than stock at peak. Once tuned it had much better results but nothing extraordinary. Especially for how long the header was in development for, I was expecting the header to completely blow away the competitions in terms of power.

Based on the dynos ive read/seen, Nameless headers arent really that much better than FT86 Speedfactory headers and HKS headers. Both of those headers I've looked at both had WAY better numbers than the Nameless headers.

I remember when a really well known magazine was given the headers, axleback and other parts including a tune and they reported that the headers didnt really do much when adding power, and everyone was talking shit about them for rushing it. Now that the final design is out it doesnt seem like what they got in their dyno's/conclusion were all that much different.

For what they charge and the extremely long wait for the headers development it doesnt really seem like it was worth the wait. Now that they are finally out and I can now decide what to get for my car, I am now really thinking of getting the HKS headers based on Drift-offices tunes because they had awesome gains.

Convince me otherwise why I shouldn't get the HKS headers and go with the Nameless set up instead. Is their something that I may of missed? Since I only read the last 20-25 pages or so.. Also a big turn off for me is that the dyno;s for the Nameless headers also lose a ton of power before 4k RPM's. I dont know about you but when I am driving on the street I rarely go above 4k RPM's to save gas. Are Nameless headers more directed towards people who autocross?

I really cant decide which of the two to get. I autocross but its not something I do a ton.

-Read the last 10-15 pages of the Nameless thread
-Dyno's from customers really amuse me( Loss of power below 4k RPM's )
-Over all gains werent that great compared to other headers on the market that came out much earlier..
-Magazines results of their dyno from parts/tunes supplied by Nameless werent possibly that far off?
-Long development/price for the headers... dont really do it justice based on the dyno's that customers did.
-HKS headers from Drift-Office results were MUCH better than what Nameless headers got.
-Help me decide whether or not I should go with HKS or Nameless. Something I may of missed since I didnt read all 100 pages?