GReddy Turbo kit for BRZ / FR-S

[GReddy_Staff]

We have been getting calls and emails regrading our GReddy Turbo kit vs Speed by Design Turbo kit so we would like to clarify this once and for all.

First of all, GReddy Performance Products, Inc and our parent company Trust co. Ltd in Japan has no business relationship with Speed by Design or their turbo kit supplier Zage Turbo in Taiwan. In the post made by Speed by Design promoting their kit for the FR-S, people are confused on who manufactures our kit and why ZAGE/SBD kit are so similar in design with our kit. The kit Zage and SBD are selling is a direct copy of our product except for the airfilter and BOV. ZAGE pretty much took our kit and copied everything down to manifold, intercooler layout even to cast piping, brackets and heat shields. If you look at our kit and compare them to kit from Zage/SBD, you will see that they are identical.

We use genuine GReddy Turbo custom made by Mitsubishi Heavy Industry Turbocharger in Japan to our spec, we invest many hours testing for the ideal turbo spec, manifold design, intercooler and piping layout. Also invested in all the tooling and molds for all the components included in our kit. While testing these kit we have also designed other necessary components such as the oil cooler kit which is a must for this application. Knockoff companies are not capable of this.

Companies such as Zage without any R&D to develop their own products, simply takes other companies products and mass produce them in China and Taiwan where it is much cheaper to produce and offer these products back in to the market profiting off other companies hard work.

If you look at other forced induction kits in the market for FR-S/BRZ you will see many different layout and setups made by each designers, fabricators and tuners. GReddy Kit is our original kit designed and developed by our own R&D team and manufactured by Trust Co. Ltd. in Japan. and if there are identical products our there it is not a coincidence.

We have visited Zage in Taiwan and confronted them about the kit they are producing and all they could do was make up excuses and was desperately trying to earn our business so they can make the claim they supply to us as well. We were not going to let that happen. Instead we teamed up with Garrett this year to add another high quality products to our product line up. We are in the process of developing new kits as we speak. No China or Taiwan knock off turbochargers will be used in our GReddy kits!

So to answer many question we get from this FT86Club community and other FR-S and BRZ clubs, GReddy Turbo kit for the FR-S/BRZ is not from the same supplier as Speed by Design and what Zage and its distributors are selling is a complete knockoff product of GReddy. (expect for the air filter, BOV and other minor features).

We hope Ft86Club and its members respect our efforts and hard work to deliver quality products to this community and let us tell the truth regards these knockoff products such as what is being sold by Zage and its distributors.

We recommend everyone in this forum that before you spend your hard earned money, do the research and make sure you fully are aware of what you are buying and what kind of companies you are supporting.

This industry is full of knockoffs and many companies has been effected over the years. These knock off companies and the distributors who has supported them are preventing legit companies from creating innovative products and leaving the industry. While general public prefers more affordable products, we understand that, but there will be no creative and innovative company left even for these knockoff companies to copy. If you can't afford quality products, you can't afford it but we will continue to do our best to offer quality products at affordable price.

We always welcome feedback from consumers and will continue to work with you to do our best to meet your needs.

Speed by Design kit


Genuine GReddy Kit


Thank you,

GReddy Staff

[Sniper2606]

@AVOturboworld

How about that debt?

Greddy still sending you $10 a year?

Focus on paying back your debt first.

You ain't no saint either

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[Fear]

@spdbydesignchris


*cough *cough .... looks like you got some splaining to do...

[spdbydesign]

I am saddened, to say the least, by the malicious attempt to degrade Zage and SBD, as their USA Distributor.

We have been open since Day 1 about the origin of our kit, and our relationship with Zage.

While the public has no idea who Zage is, they are one of the largest, if not the largest, turbo parts suppliers in Asia. Yes, a company easily as large, if not larger, than Greddy/Trust Corporation.

They product turbo kits, turbo parts, and accessories for numerous companies both domestically and internationally.

I am disappointed to read your demeaning comments about their company, as you are well aware they have no opportunity to defend themselves on this forum.

We will continue to speak the truth, which these are indeed two separate kits, configured differently.

Our goal from the beginning was to bring Zage' offering stateside, as a value in the FT86 market. We worked with them to add the MAP Sensor, BOV to their base kit....to make it an even better value once it reached out shores.

We also spent extensive time developing our Ecutek custom tuning, which we provide FREE of charge to our customers.

And in the next week, we will add the Free Open Flash Tablet Tune to our supported platforms list, to further extend our value based kit to those who have invested in Vishnu Tuning.

While I understand your need to degrade our offering, for the future advancement of yours, I'm sad to see a company of your size publicly attacking ours.

We will continue to sell on our own merits, which is our excellent service and value based kit pricing.

I would encourage you to focus on your strengths, to further progress your kit in this ever-growing marketplace of turbo kit offerings.

My Best,

Chris Riggs
President, Speed By Design USA

[dabocx]

In before lock

[spdbydesign]

Originally Posted by Fear

While what you are spouting seems very professional and honest on its face you are still very much in the wrong.

You sir are no better than the back room counterfeit purse store in the ghetto. Selling Micheal Khors purses claiming you have no affiliation with Micheal Kors.... any similarity is entirely coincidental. These purses are all Micheal Khors designs and original...

Just because your company is larger does not mean it has better business practices in fact more often than not it is inversely related... think US Steel in the 30's and 40's...

You may be a top notch provider of customer service and a good guy at heart but in the end you are supporting the counterfeit market and stealing from the mouths of the engineers at greddy who originally designed this kit.

Morally you are wrong and no justification you can bring to the table will change that.

In a court of law you would have no leg to stand on.

Zage is the number 1 counterfeiter of turbo parts to the asian market, since they do not need to have a design department they can continue to undercut those they ripp off.

they are located in taiwan for a reason, Cheap labor and lax copyright laws.

I for one will take the moral high ground and continue to spread the word about this....

While I appreciate your moral compass, you have no idea about Zage, or SBD.

I would encourage you to get to know our two companies extremely well, before you make a judgement call with very little knowledge outside of the words of a competitor that you are choosing to regurgitate as fact.

Zage is not a counterfeiter, and is one of the premier turbo parts suppliers in Asia.

This upcoming week I will post photos from my trip to Taiwan to show their facilities, which I think will further prove our claim.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

We have been open since Day 1 about the origin of our kit, and our relationship with Zage.

You claimed they manufacture for Greddy as well hence that's why they are basically same, until you were told otherwise. Why make such claims if you had no clue?

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

We will continue to speak the truth, which these are indeed two separate kits, configured differently.

Ok, how do you explain this

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

It was originally designed, along with the oil cooler....to be sold together as a bundle.

and this

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

I'm suggesting that if you like this no compromises kit from a performance standpoint (as it was engineered for absolute shortest piping length

or this

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

From an engineering standpoint, this kit was designed initially for track use and we're adapting it to use for the street.

You are implying that you did the designs, which is obviously not true.

[spdbydesign]

As one of the Distributors of the Zage Kits internationally, I have no basis by which to make assertions about the origin of the kit.

As I've publicly stated, we are the USA Distributor for the ZAGE Turbo Kit.

Anything regarding it's origin, ties (or not) to Greddy, etc....must be answered by Zage themselves.

I/SBD did NOT design this kit, and the only 100% positive Guarantee I can give you....it's made by Zage and ships from their facilities in Taiwan to our warehouse in the USA.

If you speak the language, you are welcome to call them and discuss this further.

But it NOT my place to make claims, for which I have zero personal knowledge.

Speculation isn't fact, so it's best for me to state what I know:

Zage makes the kit we are offering here, and we will continue to distribute it in North America until further notified by Zage.

Should that change, I'll be the first to post publicly.

[unijabnx2000]

You can see even more "likeness" between the picture that zage keeps on their website...

Originally Posted by GReddy_Staff

Speed by Design kit


Genuine GReddy Kit


Thank you,

GReddy Staff

[ecko04]

[vf1rwolfleader]

Remember when we all went to school to learn proper grammar and spelling? Let's have a civil conversation and before throwing sludge at the other study up on some facts.

[RD1428]

Who cares, if it's cheaper and pretty much the same, I'll go with the cheaper one

[protpibe]

Even the SBD oil cooler looks like the GReddy lol. I love the evasion around the original accusation. Im not sure why that's still happening... The jig is up.. . GReddy is here calling you out

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[gmsii]

clearly the zage kit is a ripoff/copy/duplicate, but it is not a counterfeit (they are not using greddy markings).

greddy is right in the sense that this type of copying hurts the companies that actually innovate and design the original kits, but it is not illegal for them to do so. so...the bruden is on the innovators to protect their designs.

my advice to greddy is implement a diligent intellectual property protection strategy which includes applying for design patents as standard operating procedure for all key components. the brackets, headers, heat shields, and unique shaped tubing would all be easily protectable and enforceable.

here at group-a we apply for and are issued about 7-10 design and utility patents a year. clearly in recent years copying in this industry has become increasingly widespread and flagrant, and we've had to take a much more aggressive approach to enforcing IP violators in the marketplace. in the past 18 months we've had to take legal action against 4 patent violators, and atleast 6 trademark infringers (ie counterfeit manufacturers and resellers)and counting.

innovators in our industry need to start understanding that the best defense in this industry is a good offense.