Can't get into any gear from a stop once car is warmed up - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Pneub · 04-03-2014, 05:41 PM

So I've been having problems for a little while now. It was always a bit notchy getting into gear even before modifications but it wasn't bad enough to warrant putting anything off. After replacing the clutch, I'd say in the range of 3k miles, I started having trouble getting into gear if the car came to a complete stop. This applied to all gears not just first gear. The only way for me to get into gear was to slide into first as I rolled into the stop and just keep the clutch down until traffic started moving again. If I didn't do that I'd have to slam it into either first or third which then allowed me to get into first no problem. That got old after awhile and because the problem was getting into all gears and not just first (figured it would be a syncro) I decided to replace the clutch. This fixed the problem again for about 2000 miles. Now it's back and I can't figure out what's wrong.

-Car goes into any gear fine when cold. Usually takes about 5-10 minutes of driving after warming up the car for the gears to get sticky. When the car is cold everything is very smooth.
-After the car is warm I can't get into any gear at all. If I do get locked out I can usually slam it into third which then allows me to easily get into first.
-This also applies to reverse.
-Changing the clutch fixes the problem for a couple thousand miles and then the problem returns. I also changed out to a slightly heavier flywheel the second time around.

humfrz · 04-03-2014, 07:50 PM

hmmm.......I suggest you check the clutch/brake fluid reservoir.

Next, bleed the clutch system.

If that doesn't fix it, I'd check the clutch adjustment.

humfrz

Ozzman · 04-04-2014, 12:26 AM

Your clutch is dragging, either by not disengaging properly or failure of some sort. Also a possible pilot bearing problem.

ahaghshenas · 04-04-2014, 03:19 AM

I have the same issue, havent addressed it yet as car is waiting on parts.

Have you tried changing tranny fluid?

pitstops · 04-04-2014, 03:24 AM

could be a bad clutch master and slave cylinder issue. when those go bad you cant get into gear. ebay has a used one for $40.

bleeding the system might help too.

evan · 04-04-2014, 03:32 AM

I had the exact same problem with an ACT clutch. It's not the hydraulics. I had to go to an EXEDY clutch to try to solve the problem. The throwout bearing in mine was also noisy as hell. The manual trans/clutch in these cars is finicky at best. When cold, no issue (unless winter temps). Once it got hot, trying to get into gear was not happening.

04-03-2014, 05:41 PM	#1
Pneub Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Dark Grey BRZ Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 306 Thanks: 172 Thanked 143 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can't get into any gear from a stop once car is warmed up So I've been having problems for a little while now. It was always a bit notchy getting into gear even before modifications but it wasn't bad enough to warrant putting anything off. After replacing the clutch, I'd say in the range of 3k miles, I started having trouble getting into gear if the car came to a complete stop. This applied to all gears not just first gear. The only way for me to get into gear was to slide into first as I rolled into the stop and just keep the clutch down until traffic started moving again. If I didn't do that I'd have to slam it into either first or third which then allowed me to get into first no problem. That got old after awhile and because the problem was getting into all gears and not just first (figured it would be a syncro) I decided to replace the clutch. This fixed the problem again for about 2000 miles. Now it's back and I can't figure out what's wrong. -Car goes into any gear fine when cold. Usually takes about 5-10 minutes of driving after warming up the car for the gears to get sticky. When the car is cold everything is very smooth. -After the car is warm I can't get into any gear at all. If I do get locked out I can usually slam it into third which then allows me to easily get into first. -This also applies to reverse. -Changing the clutch fixes the problem for a couple thousand miles and then the problem returns. I also changed out to a slightly heavier flywheel the second time around. __________________ Completed build...for now

04-04-2014, 03:32 AM	#6
evan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: fr-s Location: pdx Posts: 546 Thanks: 396 Thanked 202 Times in 129 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can't get into any gear from a stop once car is warmed up I had the exact same problem with an ACT clutch. It's not the hydraulics. I had to go to an EXEDY clutch to try to solve the problem. The throwout bearing in mine was also noisy as hell. The manual trans/clutch in these cars is finicky at best. When cold, no issue (unless winter temps). Once it got hot, trying to get into gear was not happening.

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04-03-2014, 07:50 PM	#2
humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 30,409 Thanks: 29,794 Thanked 32,811 Times in 16,830 Posts Mentioned: 715 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	hmmm.......I suggest you check the clutch/brake fluid reservoir. Next, bleed the clutch system. If that doesn't fix it, I'd check the clutch adjustment. humfrz

04-04-2014, 12:26 AM	#3
Ozzman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: old Location: Roswell Posts: 232 Thanks: 188 Thanked 103 Times in 59 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Your clutch is dragging, either by not disengaging properly or failure of some sort. Also a possible pilot bearing problem.

04-04-2014, 03:19 AM	#4
ahaghshenas Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: UAE Posts: 92 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have the same issue, havent addressed it yet as car is waiting on parts. Have you tried changing tranny fluid?

04-04-2014, 03:24 AM	#5
pitstops Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: SC RB FRS Location: west coast Posts: 95 Thanks: 5 Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	could be a bad clutch master and slave cylinder issue. when those go bad you cant get into gear. ebay has a used one for $40. bleeding the system might help too.

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