STI Brembo bleeder swap suggestions??? Front calipers. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Hachiroku14 · 12-06-2013, 09:13 AM

I recently got this from a forum member and was gonna flip the bleeders for proper orientation for the twins. Stock bleeders came out with no problem. When i tried to take out the opposite side (allen screw), it just won't budge. Used a T40 torx bit but to no avail. So here's my dilemma...

should I:

a. Try to use a mini torch to heat up the screw and see if it will work? (possibly damaging the nice paint and risking the screw from breaking)

b. Just leave it like that and just reverse the whole caliper during install. (meaning the LEFT with install on the RIGHT). I read somewhere here that this doesn't affect performance. Although may lead to uneven wear of pads.

c. Leave it like that, separate caliper from rotor and just use a block of wood when bleeding while bleeder is pointing up.

Thanks!!!!

infinite012 · 12-06-2013, 09:27 AM

Unfortunately, in order to break free bolts that were installed using Loctite (or other thread locker), you'll need to apply a considerable amount of heat. You could maybe get away with using a higher powered soldering iron and use just the tip (that's what she said) to heat the bolt in question. I think someone had mentioned using this method for their Brembos and it worked, but I don't want to spend any time searching for that since that's something you could do.

Vten · 12-06-2013, 10:14 AM

depends on how old the calipers are. the older the caliper the harder to get those allen nuts out. mine was 07s, and I used the torch to take those allen bolts out, but left the browning residue due to the heat. It wasn't a big deal for me since I was planning on powdercoat the caliper anyway.

a friend of mine suggested to not bother with it and told me to just separate the caliper to bleed the fluid but I don't think it's practical.

Dave-ROR · 12-06-2013, 11:47 AM

Torch. Those are differential bored calipers, so use them correctly.

empower-auto · 12-06-2013, 03:46 PM

Are these the calipers that are direct fit with the bleeders flipped? What year are they from ?

OrbitalEllipses · 12-06-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by empower-auto

Are these the calipers that are direct fit with the bleeders flipped? What year are they from ?

04-07 STI. With bleeders flipped they are oriented correctly as they are differentially bored - the leading and trailing pistons are different sizes.

King Tut · 12-06-2013, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hachiroku14

I recently got this from a forum member and was gonna flip the bleeders for proper orientation for the twins. Stock bleeders came out with no problem. When i tried to take out the opposite side (allen screw), it just won't budge. Used a T40 torx bit but to no avail. So here's my dilemma...

I swapped the bleeders on my 2008-2012 STI calipers, and I don't recall it being a torx bit, it was just a standard metric allen bit. I used a 3/8" breaker and my allen bit socket and had no issue removing them and swapping them after I bolted the calipers to the car. My advice would be to use some heat but possibly try and take some measures to protect the paint on the caliper.

King Tut · 12-06-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by empower-auto

Are these the calipers that are direct fit with the bleeders flipped? What year are they from ?

As Obital mentioned these are the cheap from Japan gold 04-07 STI calipers. The newer black 08-12 STI front calipers are the same and also bolt on but need the bleeders flipped as well.

OrbitalEllipses · 12-06-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

I swapped the bleeders on my 2008-2012 STI calipers, and I don't recall it being a torx bit, it was just a standard metric allen bit. I used a 3/8" breaker and my allen bit socket and had no issue removing them and swapping them after I bolted the calipers to the car. My advice would be to use some heat but possibly try and take some measures to protect the paint on the caliper.

It's pretty easy to shear the threads in the caliper because aluminum. I *highly* recommend heat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut

As Obital mentioned these are the cheap from Japan gold 04-07 STI calipers. The newer black 08-12 STI front calipers are the same and also bolt on but need the bleeders flipped as well.

Qué? Available on USDM 04-07 STI. Available on JDM/UKDM 01+ STI.

No Limit Motorsport · 12-06-2013, 04:06 PM

I had to drill the allen heads out, and re-tap the threads. Mine wouldn't come out with no matter how much heat and PB blaster I applied.

Take the time and do it right.

King Tut · 12-06-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Qué? Available on USDM 04-07 STI.

Most of these you see come from Japanese breaker yards and they are relatively cheaply found on eBay. They normally display damage to the paint as well. I am not implying they are any better or worse than the newer ones just easier and cheaper to find.

Figo · 12-30-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by No Limit Motorsport

I had to drill the allen heads out, and re-tap the threads. Mine wouldn't come out with no matter how much heat and PB blaster I applied.

Take the time and do it right.

When you guys say swap bleeders, do you mean do it like this (please see attachment)? Only the front need it right?

I just got a set of 08 sti caliper front and rear, and I am thinking to swap bleeder before powder coating them.

Dave-ROR · 12-30-2013, 04:19 PM

Yes. Fronts only.

OrbitalEllipses · 12-30-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Yes. Fronts only.

^Yes.

12-06-2013, 09:13 AM	#1
Hachiroku14 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2014 BRZ World Rally Blue Location: Los Angeles Posts: 133 Thanks: 23 Thanked 145 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	STI Brembo bleeder swap suggestions??? Front calipers. I recently got this from a forum member and was gonna flip the bleeders for proper orientation for the twins. Stock bleeders came out with no problem. When i tried to take out the opposite side (allen screw), it just won't budge. Used a T40 torx bit but to no avail. So here's my dilemma... should I: a. Try to use a mini torch to heat up the screw and see if it will work? (possibly damaging the nice paint and risking the screw from breaking) b. Just leave it like that and just reverse the whole caliper during install. (meaning the LEFT with install on the RIGHT). I read somewhere here that this doesn't affect performance. Although may lead to uneven wear of pads. c. Leave it like that, separate caliper from rotor and just use a block of wood when bleeding while bleeder is pointing up. Thanks!!!! Attached Images

12-06-2013, 11:47 AM	#4
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Torch. Those are differential bored calipers, so use them correctly. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

12-06-2013, 03:46 PM	#5
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Are these the calipers that are direct fit with the bleeders flipped? What year are they from ? __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

12-30-2013, 04:19 PM	#13
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Yes. Fronts only. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

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infinite012 Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 13 DGM BRZ Ltd Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 974 Thanks: 294 Thanked 470 Times in 255 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Unfortunately, in order to break free bolts that were installed using Loctite (or other thread locker), you'll need to apply a considerable amount of heat. You could maybe get away with using a higher powered soldering iron and use just the tip (that's what she said) to heat the bolt in question. I think someone had mentioned using this method for their Brembos and it worked, but I don't want to spend any time searching for that since that's something you could do.

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Vten Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Too heavy Location: Columbus Posts: 788 Thanks: 91 Thanked 288 Times in 186 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	depends on how old the calipers are. the older the caliper the harder to get those allen nuts out. mine was 07s, and I used the torch to take those allen bolts out, but left the browning residue due to the heat. It wasn't a big deal for me since I was planning on powdercoat the caliper anyway. a friend of mine suggested to not bother with it and told me to just separate the caliper to bleed the fluid but I don't think it's practical.

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