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frs10 · 10-28-2013, 02:11 PM

has anyone removed the factory stock "V" strut braces and just run a strut tower bar?

just curious on impressions

Zach3794 · 10-28-2013, 02:49 PM

I wouldn't..considering the strut to firewall braces are there from the factory, they're there for a reason. The engineers would not put a chassis brace in that spot for show on a car where they were trying to shed as much weight as they could to begin with.

Rather than ditch one and get the other, why not run a strut tower bar in addition to the V braces? They will compliment each other if nothing else by triangulating the strut towers to the firewall.

frs10 · 10-29-2013, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach3794

I wouldn't..considering the strut to firewall braces are there from the factory, they're there for a reason. The engineers would not put a chassis brace in that spot for show on a car where they were trying to shed as much weight as they could to begin with.

Rather than ditch one and get the other, why not run a strut tower bar in addition to the V braces? They will compliment each other if nothing else by triangulating the strut towers to the firewall.

just a random thought i had to see if anyone went to try this out

boredom.is.me · 10-29-2013, 02:00 PM

That would kind of defeat the purpose of adding bracing, in this case, the strut tower bar.

DKEddy90 · 10-29-2013, 02:14 PM

Hotchkiss makes a triangular strut tower brace.

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86_ZN6 · 10-29-2013, 02:18 PM

removed mine to clear turbo setup.

no notiecable difference after removal

Zach3794 · 10-29-2013, 02:19 PM

Really anything that triangulates is going to be your best bet, rather than deleting. Hotchkis and AEM make a one piece, idk if FT86speedfactory's is one piece or not. I run TBPerformance's strut tower bracing. They're separate pieces but they interlock at the strut towers and the strut to firewall braces are adjustable for preload.

After feeling the difference they make I'll likely never remove any of them.

frs10 · 10-29-2013, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86_ZN6

removed mine to clear turbo setup.

no notiecable difference after removal

interesting, this was what i was wondering... do you track ur car?

frs10 · 10-29-2013, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me

That would kind of defeat the purpose of adding bracing, in this case, the strut tower bar.

i was interesting if there was any real difference from using

a) stock
b) strut tower alone
c) triangle bars
d) strut + stock

and see what differences they make while driving

86_ZN6 · 10-29-2013, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frs10

interesting, this was what i was wondering... do you track ur car?

yes!

Piercemotorsports · 10-29-2013, 05:02 PM

I agree with Zach---I'd leave the firewall braces in or add a one piece bar that ties the towers together with the triangulation. I've been making braces for years and made a chromoly one for our BRZ---the material is crazy strong/rigid and fairly light so it has a big impact/noticeable difference vs the 3 pc designs with rodends/bolts that are only really able to control compression/tension...

DoomsdayJesus · 10-29-2013, 06:27 PM

I've seen them replaced with lighter bars but not removed.

s2d4 · 10-30-2013, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frs10

has anyone removed the factory stock "V" strut braces and just run a strut tower bar?

How did go with your sheared bolt from installing the strut tower bar?

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DKEddy90 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: asphalt grey scion frs Location: union nj Posts: 94 Thanks: 6 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hotchkiss makes a triangular strut tower brace. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2 Attached Images

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Piercemotorsports Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: Torrance, California Posts: 27 Thanks: 15 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I agree with Zach---I'd leave the firewall braces in or add a one piece bar that ties the towers together with the triangulation. I've been making braces for years and made a chromoly one for our BRZ---the material is crazy strong/rigid and fairly light so it has a big impact/noticeable difference vs the 3 pc designs with rodends/bolts that are only really able to control compression/tension... __________________ www.piercemotorsports.com

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Zach3794 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Raven, Manual Location: Vista, CA Posts: 396 Thanks: 81 Thanked 143 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wouldn't..considering the strut to firewall braces are there from the factory, they're there for a reason. The engineers would not put a chassis brace in that spot for show on a car where they were trying to shed as much weight as they could to begin with. Rather than ditch one and get the other, why not run a strut tower bar in addition to the V braces? They will compliment each other if nothing else by triangulating the strut towers to the firewall.

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86_ZN6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 86 ZN6 Location: SF Bay Area, NorCal Posts: 4,682 Thanks: 1,317 Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,222 Posts Mentioned: 126 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	removed mine to clear turbo setup. no notiecable difference after removal

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Zach3794 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Raven, Manual Location: Vista, CA Posts: 396 Thanks: 81 Thanked 143 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Really anything that triangulates is going to be your best bet, rather than deleting. Hotchkis and AEM make a one piece, idk if FT86speedfactory's is one piece or not. I run TBPerformance's strut tower bracing. They're separate pieces but they interlock at the strut towers and the strut to firewall braces are adjustable for preload. After feeling the difference they make I'll likely never remove any of them.

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