WARNING: Inevitable Rust Location! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

muffinz · 10-24-2013, 04:00 PM

Hey Everyone,

I have discovered a potential problem with the design of our car that leads me to believe the driver side rocker panel between the wheel and the front door will rust prematurely.

Background:

I was installing my Rallyarmor mudflaps and when I pulled the fender liner to install clips, I found that I had rotting leaves and disgusting shit all inside the rocker panel in the area in the red rectangle. I pulled this all out and it smelled disgusting.

The Problem:

Rainwater is drained down the driver side windshield wiper pivot area of the car and channeled through the rocker panel eventually spilling to the ground. There is no screen or anything to prevent leaves and miscellaneous debris from getting pulled down their and accumulating.

The (annoying) Solution:

Periodically pull back your driver side fender liner and clear out the rocker panel. After I cleared mine out, when I washed my car, water was gushing out of there.

I will try to take better pics showing the drain locations and the area that was full of debris.

Note: if you live in an area with no deciduous trees, then lucky you.

Cheers

FnFast · 10-27-2013, 10:14 PM

Can you paint with a rust free coating?

SpeedyJay · 10-27-2013, 10:58 PM

Thanks for the heads up, I was trying not to park under trees to keep that crap out.

If that much is collecting there already it would definitely cause a problem later on.

Young_makaveli · 10-27-2013, 11:37 PM

Good thing ill have rust proofing done soon

Clipdat · 10-28-2013, 01:31 PM

Don't you see, this is part of Toyota's initiative to "Go Green" - they're including a free composting system with every Twin!

Alternatively: That's where the crickets live!

Quote:

Originally Posted by muffinz

when I pulled the fender liner to install clips, I found that I had rotting leaves and disgusting shit all inside the rocker panel in the area in the red rectangle. I pulled this all out and it smelled disgusting.

infinite012 · 10-28-2013, 04:15 PM

I've noticed leaves in there as well as behind my fender trim.

Kiske · 10-28-2013, 05:21 PM

Any rust proofing/or paint won't last long. The leaves and dirt act as a sponge holding water on the metal. Eventually it if going to find its way to bare metal. The bolts and C-clips that hold the fender on (where they rub) will be a good starting point.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-28-2013, 05:24 PM

Problem for the next owner, lol.

Evil Jesus · 10-30-2013, 08:10 PM

Holy FUCK, you were not kidding on this. This is only what I could reach with my finger. There is so much more in there that I need to vacuum out of something. Maybe get in there with a screwdriver. Does anyone recall what our warranty is for perforation due to rust?

ZionsWrath · 10-30-2013, 08:19 PM

o lawd jesus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Jesus

Holy FUCK, you were not kidding on this. This is only what I could reach with my finger. There is so much more in there that I need to vacuum out of something. Maybe get in there with a screwdriver. Does anyone recall what our warranty is for perforation due to rust?

Evil Jesus · 10-30-2013, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

o lawd jesus

Thank you for your concern!

umpadupa · 10-31-2013, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Jesus

Holy FUCK, you were not kidding on this. This is only what I could reach with my finger. There is so much more in there that I need to vacuum out of something. Maybe get in there with a screwdriver. Does anyone recall what our warranty is for perforation due to rust?

Sry bro, car is done.

jks aside, Canadian FRS come with mud flaps that make pulling the liner a b!tch. Is there no other solution? other then the warranty i read somewhere that covers body rust up to 5yrs?

daftpunk · 11-02-2013, 02:48 PM

Thank you so much for reporting this!
Im going out to check on that spot asap and will probably start spraying the inside with WD40 regularly. Hating the fact that the debris could've been holding water in that spot the 10 months I've had the car...

The worst thing about buying a brand new car is that you'll never know if they end up being vulnerable rust buckets like the mazda 3's =(

Rayme · 11-02-2013, 05:28 PM

Good catch, I'll clean 'er up and spray lot's of rust check in there, as everyone should do before winter

10-24-2013, 04:00 PM	#1
muffinz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ Ltd Location: New York Posts: 184 Thanks: 84 Thanked 97 Times in 49 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	WARNING: Inevitable Rust Location! Hey Everyone, I have discovered a potential problem with the design of our car that leads me to believe the driver side rocker panel between the wheel and the front door will rust prematurely. Background: I was installing my Rallyarmor mudflaps and when I pulled the fender liner to install clips, I found that I had rotting leaves and disgusting shit all inside the rocker panel in the area in the red rectangle. I pulled this all out and it smelled disgusting. The Problem: Rainwater is drained down the driver side windshield wiper pivot area of the car and channeled through the rocker panel eventually spilling to the ground. There is no screen or anything to prevent leaves and miscellaneous debris from getting pulled down their and accumulating. The (annoying) Solution: Periodically pull back your driver side fender liner and clear out the rocker panel. After I cleared mine out, when I washed my car, water was gushing out of there. I will try to take better pics showing the drain locations and the area that was full of debris. Note: if you live in an area with no deciduous trees, then lucky you. Cheers Attached Images Last edited by muffinz; 10-24-2013 at 04:02 PM. Reason: Car in the pic is not mine

10-27-2013, 10:14 PM	#2
FnFast Doctor Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Fast Location: Philadelphia Posts: 496 Thanks: 410 Thanked 203 Times in 126 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can you paint with a rust free coating? __________________ Jeremy Clarkson "If you go though the Pearly Gates, backwards, in a fireball, that's a cool way to die!" 2013 White Pearl BRZ Limited 6MT - 15% Tint, Debadged, HIDPowerhouse LED Interiors and Dome

11-02-2013, 02:48 PM	#13
daftpunk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Toronto Posts: 190 Thanks: 158 Thanked 93 Times in 53 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Thank you so much for reporting this! Im going out to check on that spot asap and will probably start spraying the inside with WD40 regularly. Hating the fact that the debris could've been holding water in that spot the 10 months I've had the car... The worst thing about buying a brand new car is that you'll never know if they end up being vulnerable rust buckets like the mazda 3's =( __________________ 2013 Firestorm Scion FRS 2005 Civic SI Sedan- Sold 2004 Impreza WRX - Sold 1992 Civic Hatchback - Parted, RIP

11-02-2013, 05:28 PM	#14
Rayme The Answer Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Mazda 2 Location: Moncton, NB Posts: 1,233 Thanks: 488 Thanked 661 Times in 315 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Good catch, I'll clean 'er up and spray lot's of rust check in there, as everyone should do before winter __________________ \| Roof wrap thread

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SpeedyJay Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: '13 WRB BRZ Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 156 Thanks: 24 Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the heads up, I was trying not to park under trees to keep that crap out. If that much is collecting there already it would definitely cause a problem later on.

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Young_makaveli Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 frs Location: Montreal Posts: 712 Thanks: 181 Thanked 88 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Good thing ill have rust proofing done soon

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infinite012 Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 13 DGM BRZ Ltd Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 974 Thanks: 294 Thanked 470 Times in 255 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	I've noticed leaves in there as well as behind my fender trim.

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Kiske Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: RX-7 / BRZ Location: USA Posts: 2,349 Thanks: 1,031 Thanked 2,501 Times in 1,081 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Any rust proofing/or paint won't last long. The leaves and dirt act as a sponge holding water on the metal. Eventually it if going to find its way to bare metal. The bolts and C-clips that hold the fender on (where they rub) will be a good starting point.

10-28-2013, 05:24 PM	#8
OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,890 Times in 2,903 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Problem for the next owner, lol.

10-30-2013, 08:10 PM	#9
Evil Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: '13 FR-S Raven 6MT Location: Albany, NY Posts: 443 Thanks: 1,072 Thanked 200 Times in 135 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Holy FUCK, you were not kidding on this. This is only what I could reach with my finger. There is so much more in there that I need to vacuum out of something. Maybe get in there with a screwdriver. Does anyone recall what our warranty is for perforation due to rust?

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