Winter/Snow Tires - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Priapus · 10-23-2013, 09:23 PM

I realize there's already a sticky thread on this subject, but a poll should be of more help IMO.
Your contribution of experience with any of these tires is appreciated.

Nhil · 10-23-2013, 10:11 PM

I've used Blizzaks, Ultra Grips and the Altimax's and I prefer the Altimax for my area. Heavy snowfall and snow/ice covered roads from December to Feb/March. If you are in an area where the roads are mostly dry and have a bit of snow here and there I would go with the Blizzaks.

dsgerbc · 10-23-2013, 10:23 PM

That's a strage mix of tires you're considering.
The first two are more of a dry-road winter tire with some snow/ice grip. The latter three are Ice & Snow tires, more suited for Minnesota/Canada or some place with lots of lake-effect snow.

So I'd say the first two should be considered (and dumped in favor of Michelin PA4), the latter three should not even be on the list.

edit: nevermind, there's no PA4 in 17" size. LM60 gets my vote.

tinma · 10-23-2013, 10:33 PM

I had blizzak on my old car and they worked great for Canada Ontario snow storms... This year I decided to go with the Goodyear Ultra Grip...I will vote once I have experience with the two....but as of right now I find that the Ultra grip lose traction pretty easily when accelerating on dry roads (snow hasnt hit us yet)

Priapus · 10-23-2013, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

That's a strage mix of tires you're considering.
The first two are more of a dry-road winter tire with some snow/ice grip. The latter three are Ice & Snow tires, more suited for Minnesota/Canada or some place with lots of lake-effect snow.

So I'd say the first two should be considered (and dumped in favor of Michelin PA4), the latter three should not even be on the list.

I live in Missouri where snow and ice will inevitably happen, but not throughout the whole season, so I'm looking for a set of tires that will perform in both snow/ice and cold/dry conditions. I realize that there will be compromise. I'm just widening my scope to find a suitable option for Missouri weather.

Thank you for the PA4 suggestion.

YourFearlessLeader · 10-23-2013, 11:12 PM

love my altimax artics!

dsgerbc · 10-23-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Priapus

Thank you for the PA4 suggestion.

See edit.

The latter three tires (The I&S kind) will involve a significant reduction in dry/wet performance. Is it worth it to trade off 10-20ft or more of 60-0 braking distance in the dry for more performance during a stray snowstorm?
I'm not sure. How fast will the crews clean the road?

If there were better studded options available besides Altimax, I'd recommend those. There might be ways to procure decent studded tires (Nokian/Conti/Michelin etc). I'm not a fan of Altimaxes. Sure they are cheap, but they are also sub par on ice/snow performance.

Blu-Steel · 10-25-2013, 01:56 PM

I just installed Michelin PS/3 All Seasons. So far so good, we'll see how the winter goes!

kALMIGHTY · 10-25-2013, 02:05 PM

Bought Blizzaks WS70's for Calgary winters here in Canada. Haven't installed them yet since there's no snow but just handling these tires with my hands (getting them in and out of the car) they are ridiculously sticky compared to other tires I've handled so I'm confident they'll be sticky in the snow when they're actually on as well.

drewbot · 10-25-2013, 02:09 PM

Can't tell you first hand of snow conditions (yet), however, I opted for WS70's for Toronto winter.

Muskokan · 10-25-2013, 02:14 PM

Quick question, will normal 16" steelies clear the callipers? Our stock brakes aren't to big are they?

cnk · 10-25-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Muskokan

Quick question, will normal 16" steelies clear the callipers? Our stock brakes aren't to big are they?

I know TireRack has 16" steelies as an option for the car so they do work. Just not sure if all steelies are the same.

drewbot · 10-25-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Muskokan

Quick question, will normal 16" steelies clear the callipers? Our stock brakes aren't to big are they?

I sure hope they do.

Not to find out in the next week...

SportInjected · 10-25-2013, 08:27 PM

The wintersports are a great performance winter tire. I ran the Pirelli sotozero 2's last winter and they did very well, even in the deeper stuff.

View Poll Results: Which tire, in your experience, is better? (TireRack pricing)
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 ($608/set)	6	30.00%
Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3 ($580)	0	0%
Continental ExtremeWinterContact ($564)	4	20.00%
Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice WRT($540)	2	10.00%
General Altimax Arctic ($456 or $516 Studded)	8	40.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

10-23-2013, 09:23 PM	#1
Priapus Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 89 Thanks: 31 Thanked 87 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Winter/Snow Tires I realize there's already a sticky thread on this subject, but a poll should be of more help IMO. Your contribution of experience with any of these tires is appreciated.

10-23-2013, 10:23 PM	#3
dsgerbc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: BRZ(sold), STI Location: A2, MI Posts: 1,915 Thanks: 176 Thanked 419 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's a strage mix of tires you're considering. The first two are more of a dry-road winter tire with some snow/ice grip. The latter three are Ice & Snow tires, more suited for Minnesota/Canada or some place with lots of lake-effect snow. So I'd say the first two should be considered (and dumped in favor of Michelin PA4), the latter three should not even be on the list. edit: nevermind, there's no PA4 in 17" size. LM60 gets my vote. Last edited by dsgerbc; 10-23-2013 at 10:49 PM.

10-23-2013, 10:33 PM	#4
tinma Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: '13 BRZ Location: Canada Posts: 495 Thanks: 479 Thanked 172 Times in 117 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I had blizzak on my old car and they worked great for Canada Ontario snow storms... This year I decided to go with the Goodyear Ultra Grip...I will vote once I have experience with the two....but as of right now I find that the Ultra grip lose traction pretty easily when accelerating on dry roads (snow hasnt hit us yet) Last edited by tinma; 10-23-2013 at 11:49 PM.

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10-23-2013, 10:11 PM	#2
Nhil Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 70 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've used Blizzaks, Ultra Grips and the Altimax's and I prefer the Altimax for my area. Heavy snowfall and snow/ice covered roads from December to Feb/March. If you are in an area where the roads are mostly dry and have a bit of snow here and there I would go with the Blizzaks.

10-25-2013, 01:56 PM	#8
Blu-Steel Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, Black 6 Speen Manual Location: Missouri Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just installed Michelin PS/3 All Seasons. So far so good, we'll see how the winter goes!

10-25-2013, 02:05 PM	#9
kALMIGHTY Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: TRD Ultramarine '13 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,377 Thanks: 190 Thanked 766 Times in 347 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bought Blizzaks WS70's for Calgary winters here in Canada. Haven't installed them yet since there's no snow but just handling these tires with my hands (getting them in and out of the car) they are ridiculously sticky compared to other tires I've handled so I'm confident they'll be sticky in the snow when they're actually on as well.

10-25-2013, 02:09 PM	#10
drewbot ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: '13 Whiteout FR-S A/T Location: Mississauga, ON Posts: 1,996 Thanks: 1,985 Thanked 1,452 Times in 752 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Can't tell you first hand of snow conditions (yet), however, I opted for WS70's for Toronto winter.

10-25-2013, 02:14 PM	#11
Muskokan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: white Sport-tech Location: Ontario Posts: 676 Thanks: 204 Thanked 320 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Quick question, will normal 16" steelies clear the callipers? Our stock brakes aren't to big are they?

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