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Admired · 10-20-2013, 12:15 AM

So I get the wheels naked without paint and the boxes appeared fine but I didn't check out the condition of the wheels before I dropped them off at Zen Motors in Suwanee,GA for powdercoating/tire mounting and fitment on the car for fender pulling/rolling and airlift install. Anyway so they come back from the powdercoater and tires mounted and then they noticed the bends in the wheel at 2 different places (one inside and one outside the rim). Of course Zen say that this wasn't there doing and VIP say that they don't know how this could have happened and say that for all they know this could have happened before being powdercoated and the powdercoater just painted over the mistake. I'm not sure what to do or what will come of this. I'm hoping VIP will give me some sort of repayment as I know Zen and they would never lie to a customer for their benefit. The shipping too could not be the problem as the boxes were all in good condition. Here are the pics

mrha · 10-20-2013, 05:47 AM

I have read the powdercoating can warp certain wheels because of heat tolerances and what not.

mrha · 10-20-2013, 05:52 AM

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...emergency.html

DougNuts · 10-20-2013, 12:02 PM

Powdercoating aluminum wheels can cause issues with heat treat if they spend too long at temp or they are very thin (easily saturated), but physical damage like that is unlikely unless it is dropped while warm.

Basically, when heat treating something like a wheel, you don't want to stay heat saturated for too long, as it will begin going "over the hump" with regards to yield strength and start becoming more ductile again. Time is as important as temp - heat treating is technically called "artificial aging."

Why didn't the guy who installed the tires catch this?

jeebus · 10-20-2013, 12:38 PM

It probably happened during powdercoat, but since you don't know and they don't know and the tire place doesn't know....well I'd say you are SOL.

wholeeoh · 10-20-2013, 01:16 PM

Seem like happened while powdercoating or at the powdercoater. Zen is probe not going to do anything because you already told them u didn't receive them in that way. Their hands are clean

10-20-2013, 12:15 AM	#1
Admired Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: GA Posts: 248 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	VIP Modular VRC13 Wheels Bent So I get the wheels naked without paint and the boxes appeared fine but I didn't check out the condition of the wheels before I dropped them off at Zen Motors in Suwanee,GA for powdercoating/tire mounting and fitment on the car for fender pulling/rolling and airlift install. Anyway so they come back from the powdercoater and tires mounted and then they noticed the bends in the wheel at 2 different places (one inside and one outside the rim). Of course Zen say that this wasn't there doing and VIP say that they don't know how this could have happened and say that for all they know this could have happened before being powdercoated and the powdercoater just painted over the mistake. I'm not sure what to do or what will come of this. I'm hoping VIP will give me some sort of repayment as I know Zen and they would never lie to a customer for their benefit. The shipping too could not be the problem as the boxes were all in good condition. Here are the pics

10-20-2013, 12:02 PM	#4
DougNuts Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Outback 3.6R, F150, RAV4 hybrid Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 20 Thanks: 36 Thanked 14 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Powdercoating aluminum wheels can cause issues with heat treat if they spend too long at temp or they are very thin (easily saturated), but physical damage like that is unlikely unless it is dropped while warm. Basically, when heat treating something like a wheel, you don't want to stay heat saturated for too long, as it will begin going "over the hump" with regards to yield strength and start becoming more ductile again. Time is as important as temp - heat treating is technically called "artificial aging." Why didn't the guy who installed the tires catch this? Last edited by DougNuts; 10-20-2013 at 12:20 PM. Reason: for more details

10-20-2013, 12:38 PM	#5
jeebus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2015 Mustang GT (on order) Location: San Diego Posts: 904 Thanks: 114 Thanked 471 Times in 208 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It probably happened during powdercoat, but since you don't know and they don't know and the tire place doesn't know....well I'd say you are SOL. __________________

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10-20-2013, 05:47 AM	#2
mrha #1819 Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Lightning Red Subaru BRZ Location: Garden Grove, CA Posts: 355 Thanks: 83 Thanked 126 Times in 73 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have read the powdercoating can warp certain wheels because of heat tolerances and what not.

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mrha #1819 Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Lightning Red Subaru BRZ Location: Garden Grove, CA Posts: 355 Thanks: 83 Thanked 126 Times in 73 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...emergency.html

10-20-2013, 01:16 PM	#6
wholeeoh Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2012 subaru brz Location: Miami Posts: 84 Thanks: 5 Thanked 27 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Seem like happened while powdercoating or at the powdercoater. Zen is probe not going to do anything because you already told them u didn't receive them in that way. Their hands are clean

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