Performance manifolds - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Nitro_FRS · 10-12-2013, 03:01 AM

Ive seen pictures of a performance tubular Intake manifold on the FRS/BRZ. However doing all of this searching I am unable to locate or source this manifold. I have no idea who manufactures it or if its a custom piece. Anybody know?

Also has anybody done dyno testing with the different exhaust manifolds to see which produces the most performance output over all of the others? Not looking for full exhaust setups JUST the headers.

FreshFRS · 10-12-2013, 03:20 AM

Motiv Concepts was working on an intake manifold at one point, it might be custom made though. we never got any updates from them on the progress.

Anthony · 10-12-2013, 04:53 AM

It would be nice if someone released an intake manifold and throttle body that was both effective and affordable. HKS can keep theirs.

ft_sjo · 10-12-2013, 06:25 AM

You guys are dreaming if you think a new common-plenum inlet manifold is going to release noticeable power from this engine.

This isn't some 1980's hunk of iron designed in a shed by peasant farmers.

If you want power from this engine, look at the ports, get appropriate ITB's and exhaust system and make it spin faster. The end.

StormTrooper · 10-12-2013, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

You guys are dreaming if you think a new common-plenum inlet manifold is going to release noticeable power from this engine.

This isn't some 1980's hunk of iron designed in a shed by peasant farmers.

If you want power from this engine, look at the ports, get appropriate ITB's and exhaust system and make it spin faster. The end.

Idk, the MRs seemed to benefit from intake manifolds and it wasn't designed by peasant farmers....

Anthony · 10-13-2013, 12:27 AM

I don't really expect one to come out any time soon. And when they do start coming out, I don't expect their cost:gains ratio to be good enough for me to seriously consider. That's why I said it would be nice if one was effective and affordable.

Besides, by the time that day comes, it'll probably be way too easy to go FI anyway.

ft_sjo · 10-13-2013, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StormTrooper

Idk, the MRs seemed to benefit from intake manifolds and it wasn't designed by peasant farmers....

They came with 100hp/litre engines too, right?

Kostamojen · 10-13-2013, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

If you want power from this engine, look at the ports, get appropriate ITB's and exhaust system and make it spin faster. The end.

Exactly. See the SYMs wagons for an excellent example:

"Built at a reported cost of $250,000 each, these Impreza wagons were powered by a normally aspirated 2-liter EJ20 engine featuring roller barrel throttle bodies fed by a carbon fiber airbox and dry sump system. Internals were a closely guarded secret, but output was 300 hp at 8,200 rpm. Moved back for better weight distribution, the FR layout was mated to a sequential transmission, with a BMW diff driving the rear wheels."

http://superchargercalculators.blogs...on-to.html?m=1

OrbitalEllipses · 10-13-2013, 03:57 AM

All's well and good, but then you calculate the cost and ITBs + internals for high rpm operation end up costing more than a turbokit. People don't want power, they want cheap power.

StormTrooper · 10-13-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

They came with 100hp/litre engines too, right?

Pretty sure 180/1.8 is the same as 200/2 but my math skills are slipping.

Don't know much about Hondas but I've heard even the legendary k20 got power from intake manifold changes.

Now, don't get me wrong I'm not saying we'll get 20whp out of one but more power is possible.

StormTrooper · 10-13-2013, 08:54 AM

Guess I missed the part where 6k was cheap for a small turbo ...

boxer 2.5 · 10-13-2013, 08:55 AM

Shoot, my b20z/vtec got great gains from a skunk2 IM and 68mm TB. Especially after port matching, thermal gasket (over stock).

boxer 2.5 · 10-13-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by StormTrooper

Guess I missed the part where 6k was cheap for a small turbo ...

AVO kit is 4k...

infinite012 · 10-13-2013, 08:58 AM

Has anybody done a flow test of the intake manifold versus the rest of the engine? Subarus are known to flow quite well stock on the intake side of the engine.

10-12-2013, 03:01 AM	#1
Nitro_FRS Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: sexy Location: texas Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Performance manifolds Ive seen pictures of a performance tubular Intake manifold on the FRS/BRZ. However doing all of this searching I am unable to locate or source this manifold. I have no idea who manufactures it or if its a custom piece. Anybody know? Also has anybody done dyno testing with the different exhaust manifolds to see which produces the most performance output over all of the others? Not looking for full exhaust setups JUST the headers.

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Anthony Weight Nazi Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 FRS -399lb, 11 335is, 05 Tiburon Location: Biloxi, MS / Gulf Coast 86 Posts: 3,702 Thanks: 5,009 Thanked 3,713 Times in 1,765 Posts Mentioned: 150 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	It would be nice if someone released an intake manifold and throttle body that was both effective and affordable. HKS can keep theirs. __________________ Build Thread \| The Venus Project \| Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy.

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Anthony Weight Nazi Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 FRS -399lb, 11 335is, 05 Tiburon Location: Biloxi, MS / Gulf Coast 86 Posts: 3,702 Thanks: 5,009 Thanked 3,713 Times in 1,765 Posts Mentioned: 150 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	I don't really expect one to come out any time soon. And when they do start coming out, I don't expect their cost:gains ratio to be good enough for me to seriously consider. That's why I said it would be nice if one was effective and affordable. Besides, by the time that day comes, it'll probably be way too easy to go FI anyway. __________________ Build Thread \| The Venus Project \| Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy.

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