OEM Brakes, not as standard Subaru as I had hoped.. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Dave-ROR · 04-10-2012, 01:28 PM

So in prep for a track day I was hoping to do within days/a week of getting the car (assuming timing worked out) I had started to research brake pads for the car. Sadly, the only matching part number is the front rotors. They are WRX front rotors.

Not that I care about the rotors specifically, but I first checked the pads. They don't match an existing Subaru, no big deal, compound differences would mean a different part number, but the caliper is what's more important. Unfortunately, the calipers also don't match any existing Subaru part numbers.

I PMd some Toyota guys on here just in case they are Toyota parts but from what we know right now we may have to wait a bit for pad upgrades for the car

I have contacted Carbotech about it to see if they can pull the info from Scion/Subaru and make some pads for me in advance. Otherwise, I'll throw my car up on the lift and leave it for a few days and ship my pads to them so they can find the matching pad, or create new pads for the cars.

Draco-REX · 04-10-2012, 02:28 PM

Wow, I'm really surprised about that. I figured they used WRX hardware all around. Hmm...

WingsofWar · 04-10-2012, 02:41 PM

oh noes! this is really interesting news.

2fast4you · 04-10-2012, 02:52 PM

I'm slightly disappointed, but not surprised.

OrbitalEllipses · 04-10-2012, 02:54 PM

Interesting. I hope it uses a common d number pad shape. Otherwise

. Let's bank on it being a known Toyota P/N. Perhaps someone knows someone in Japan that can access the TRD pads and get their d number?

colHolm · 04-10-2012, 03:00 PM

All the part numbers that I can see are all Subaru, which means there isn't an easy way to find out if there are any shared vehicle applications (on the Toyota side at least).

Dave-ROR · 04-10-2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Wow, I'm really surprised about that. I figured they used WRX hardware all around. Hmm...

I was figuring WRX fronts and LGT rears because of the vented rear discs, WRX calipers wouldn't have worked for that.

I have no idea why they went a different route, unless they are the normal parts just with new part numbers due to the switch in sides (R becomes L when the caliper switches front the back of the wheel to the front to keep the bleeder up top).

One of the Toyota guys replied, they are Subaru PNs in the Toyota system, so no go on them being Toyota parts.

I haven't heard back from Carbotech yet but I doubt they'll have info yet. No pads listed on tirerack or online that I could find to cross reference part numbers with either.

Hopefully the rear rotors will become common on something else so replacements with be cheap

OrbitalEllipses · 04-10-2012, 03:10 PM

Didn't the Toyota-side shop and info manuals go live? I would think there might be a breakdown of the pad shapes front/rear there.

Racecomp Engineering · 04-10-2012, 04:01 PM

Don't sweat it guys. There are lots of little things that could change and necessitate a part number change. Piston sizes on the caliper, pad compound, etc....we weren't expecting these things to stay the same.

The important thing is the pad shape and I'm fairly certain that's the same as WRX. I will double check our notes.

- Andrew

Racecomp Engineering · 04-10-2012, 04:05 PM

Yeah the pad shape matched our 2011 WRX.

- drew

2fast4you · 04-10-2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

The important thing is the pad shape and I'm fairly certain that's the same as WRX. I will double check our notes.

Yeah the pad shape matched our 2011 WRX.

- Andrew

Thanks Andrew!

OrbitalEllipses · 04-10-2012, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Yeah the pad shape matched our 2011 WRX.

- drew

Excellent news, thanks RCE & crew.

Racecomp Engineering · 04-10-2012, 04:10 PM

Also on that note....the brake bias on this car is soooo damn good (for a Subaru especially) and it stays pretty darn flat under hard braking. Really impressed with that.

Which naturally means that a lot of aftermarket BBK's are gonna seriously ruin the braking on this car in my opinion.

- drew

Racecomp Engineering · 04-10-2012, 04:11 PM

No problem guys, glad to help!

- drew

04-10-2012, 01:28 PM	#1
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	OEM Brakes, not as standard Subaru as I had hoped.. So in prep for a track day I was hoping to do within days/a week of getting the car (assuming timing worked out) I had started to research brake pads for the car. Sadly, the only matching part number is the front rotors. They are WRX front rotors. Not that I care about the rotors specifically, but I first checked the pads. They don't match an existing Subaru, no big deal, compound differences would mean a different part number, but the caliper is what's more important. Unfortunately, the calipers also don't match any existing Subaru part numbers. I PMd some Toyota guys on here just in case they are Toyota parts but from what we know right now we may have to wait a bit for pad upgrades for the car I have contacted Carbotech about it to see if they can pull the info from Scion/Subaru and make some pads for me in advance. Otherwise, I'll throw my car up on the lift and leave it for a few days and ship my pads to them so they can find the matching pad, or create new pads for the cars. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

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OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,890 Times in 2,903 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Didn't the Toyota-side shop and info manuals go live? I would think there might be a breakdown of the pad shapes front/rear there.

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04-10-2012, 04:05 PM	#10
Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,512 Thanks: 3,537 Thanked 7,407 Times in 3,030 Posts Mentioned: 310 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Yeah the pad shape matched our 2011 WRX. - drew

04-10-2012, 04:10 PM	#13
Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,512 Thanks: 3,537 Thanked 7,407 Times in 3,030 Posts Mentioned: 310 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Also on that note....the brake bias on this car is soooo damn good (for a Subaru especially) and it stays pretty darn flat under hard braking. Really impressed with that. Which naturally means that a lot of aftermarket BBK's are gonna seriously ruin the braking on this car in my opinion. - drew

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