follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting

Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting What these cars were built for!


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-27-2013, 11:21 PM   #1
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,543
Thanks: 2,002
Thanked 2,027 Times in 1,465 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Preparing for my First Track Day/autocross in October, I want to spend some money

It occurred to me after my first canyon run why this car is so much fun to drive. (Not going fast just fades away) Prior to this its been mostly DD duties and straight open roads of CA. I admit, I am one of those people who think this car needs more power, but rather waste 3000-5000$ now on FI, I rather spend money on the car that will help me on the track. This way I can enjoy the car for what it is and what its designed to do. My daily commute got cut to down to 5 miles daily now that I have moved and take the train into work.

I know I am going to suck for a while and there is no need to get more power when in the beginning I will not be able to harness the power. So here are a few ideas that I think would help me while providing a good bang for your buck. I should have about 1000-1500$ to spend

-Keeping stock rims or finding a used set to be used as a dedicated track rim add Pilot Super Sport tires 225/17/45
-replace trans and diff fluid(had the car 18,000 miles and have not done so yet)
-brake pads(will switch out for track events and keep stock for daily)
-Replace brake fluids
-Replace brake lines with steel braided ones
-Oil Cooler maybe.

Anything else you guys can think of? Again I am looking for best bang for my buck that wont break the bank.

EDIT** I forgot to mention this is for fun and I am not looking to spend crazy amounts of money to squeeze every little bit. Rather save that $$$ for my track time.

Last edited by jflogerzi; 09-27-2013 at 11:40 PM.
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 12:07 AM   #2
DAMotorsports
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 Scion FRS "Raven"
Location: SoCal
Posts: 503
Thanks: 335
Thanked 467 Times in 215 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
take the money and use it for seat time! that is the best investment for you. if have never tracked before you will not push the limits of the car for while. at that time you would most likely be ready for tires and breaks.
DAMotorsports is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DAMotorsports For This Useful Post:
karma003 (10-03-2013), Racecomp Engineering (09-30-2013)
Old 09-28-2013, 02:40 AM   #3
TrogDor the Burninator
Senior Member
 
TrogDor the Burninator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 Hot Lava FR-S 6 MT
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 164
Thanks: 83
Thanked 79 Times in 49 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAMotorsports View Post
take the money and use it for seat time! that is the best investment for you. if have never tracked before you will not push the limits of the car for while. at that time you would most likely be ready for tires and breaks.
^^^ I can't agree more. This car is just fine on the track stock if you are doing an HPDE event. Getting to push your car on the track will also help you identify what mods you want to make on your car first. Do you want more stopping power or do you want more grip in the turns first? Do you want better handling? Driving your car nearer it's limits will help you figure out the mods that are most important to you and your style.

Plus - the more seat time you have the better! Events are far and few between in the late fall and winter ... best to get some time in while you can!

Oh yeah - get a helmet! A decent one is going to run you 200 to 500 bucks!
__________________
2013 Scion FR-S Hot Lava 6MT Current Mods: KW V3 Coilovers - Raceseng CasCam Plates - Volk TE37SL Black Edition 18x9 +45 - Dunlop Direzza ZIIs 255/35 - Tomei Expreme Ti 60S - FT86 SpeedFactory UEL Catted Header
TrogDor the Burninator is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to TrogDor the Burninator For This Useful Post:
Racecomp Engineering (09-30-2013)
Old 09-28-2013, 02:46 AM   #4
ZionsWrath
Thanks
 
ZionsWrath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: BRZ
Location: NY
Posts: 4,163
Thanks: 5,989
Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
What made you pick super sports for track?
ZionsWrath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 03:52 AM   #5
CSG Mike
 
CSG Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: S2000 CR
Location: Orange County
Posts: 14,536
Thanks: 8,929
Thanked 14,183 Times in 6,838 Posts
Mentioned: 966 Post(s)
Tagged: 14 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jflogerzi View Post
It occurred to me after my first canyon run why this car is so much fun to drive. (Not going fast just fades away) Prior to this its been mostly DD duties and straight open roads of CA. I admit, I am one of those people who think this car needs more power, but rather waste 3000-5000$ now on FI, I rather spend money on the car that will help me on the track. This way I can enjoy the car for what it is and what its designed to do. My daily commute got cut to down to 5 miles daily now that I have moved and take the train into work.

I know I am going to suck for a while and there is no need to get more power when in the beginning I will not be able to harness the power. So here are a few ideas that I think would help me while providing a good bang for your buck. I should have about 1000-1500$ to spend

-Keeping stock rims or finding a used set to be used as a dedicated track rim add Pilot Super Sport tires 225/17/45
-replace trans and diff fluid(had the car 18,000 miles and have not done so yet)
-brake pads(will switch out for track events and keep stock for daily)
-Replace brake fluids
-Replace brake lines with steel braided ones
-Oil Cooler maybe.

Anything else you guys can think of? Again I am looking for best bang for my buck that wont break the bank.

EDIT** I forgot to mention this is for fun and I am not looking to spend crazy amounts of money to squeeze every little bit. Rather save that $$$ for my track time.
Brake pads, brake fluid, brake lines, camber bolts.

And, a new set of tires when your current ones wear out. RS3's are what I'd recommend.

That'll bring your total to just about $1200. PM me for the brake and maintenance stuff.


@ the other posters: these are not performance adders. Rather, the purpose of my recommended mods is to prevent performance degradation on track. The last thing you want is for your brakes to fade when you're trying to slow down.
CSG Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CSG Mike For This Useful Post:
fstlane (09-28-2013), Racecomp Engineering (09-30-2013)
Old 09-28-2013, 08:19 AM   #6
DarkSunrise
Senior Member
 
DarkSunrise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S)
Location: USA
Posts: 5,794
Thanks: 2,165
Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts
Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSG Mike View Post
Brake pads, brake fluid, brake lines, camber bolts.

And, a new set of tires when your current ones wear out. RS3's are what I'd recommend.

That'll bring your total to just about $1200. PM me for the brake and maintenance stuff.


@ the other posters: these are not performance adders. Rather, the purpose of my recommended mods is to prevent performance degradation on track. The last thing you want is for your brakes to fade when you're trying to slow down.
Yep, I agree with Mike. For a track day, you'll definitely want brake pads and fluid at the minimum, especially if you think you'll be pushing the car even close to its limits. I remember one of my first track days, I boiled the brake fluid and it was quite an experience not being able to brake when going 100+. Then the disappointment of having to cut your expensive track day short because you didn't prepare. (That was a different car, but universal concept). Better to be safe and prepared.

For autocross, you can run stock and be fine. It's not nearly as taxing on your brakes.

Also I run 100 octane at the track bc of the DI seal issue. If you're going to use CA 91 octane, I would get the latest TIR table fix and an oil cooler.
__________________
"Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time."

2022 BRZ Build
2013 FR-S Build
DarkSunrise is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DarkSunrise For This Useful Post:
amram (02-18-2014)
Old 09-28-2013, 10:57 AM   #7
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,543
Thanks: 2,002
Thanked 2,027 Times in 1,465 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZionsWrath View Post
What made you pick super sports for track?
I guess I dont follow the question
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 10:59 AM   #8
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,543
Thanks: 2,002
Thanked 2,027 Times in 1,465 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSunrise View Post
Yep, I agree with Mike. For a track day, you'll definitely want brake pads and fluid at the minimum, especially if you think you'll be pushing the car even close to its limits. I remember one of my first track days, I boiled the brake fluid and it was quite an experience not being able to brake when going 100+. Then the disappointment of having to cut your expensive track day short because you didn't prepare. (That was a different car, but universal concept). Better to be safe and prepared.

For autocross, you can run stock and be fine. It's not nearly as taxing on your brakes.

Also I run 100 octane at the track bc of the DI seal issue. If you're going to use CA 91 octane, I would get the latest TIR table fix and an oil cooler.
I have an ecu tune which has the fix for the di seal
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 11:16 AM   #9
ZionsWrath
Thanks
 
ZionsWrath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: BRZ
Location: NY
Posts: 4,163
Thanks: 5,989
Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jflogerzi View Post
I guess I dont follow the question
You said

-Keeping stock rims or finding a used set to be used as a dedicated track rim add Pilot Super Sport tires 225/17/45

Was curious why is all.
ZionsWrath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2013, 11:21 AM   #10
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,543
Thanks: 2,002
Thanked 2,027 Times in 1,465 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZionsWrath View Post
You said

-Keeping stock rims or finding a used set to be used as a dedicated track rim add Pilot Super Sport tires 225/17/45

Was curious why is all.
Because I am cheap and you can get good deals on a stock set without tires. But I may just save up for a lighter track dedicated wheel.
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 03:07 AM   #11
CSG Mike
 
CSG Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: S2000 CR
Location: Orange County
Posts: 14,536
Thanks: 8,929
Thanked 14,183 Times in 6,838 Posts
Mentioned: 966 Post(s)
Tagged: 14 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jflogerzi View Post
Because I am cheap and you can get good deals on a stock set without tires. But I may just save up for a lighter track dedicated wheel.
Light and cheap? RPF1.
CSG Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 06:49 AM   #12
448hpsti
In Test:Oil Fed SC
 
448hpsti's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: Vortech Prototype Test Car
Location: Hotter than where you are
Posts: 355
Thanks: 156
Thanked 142 Times in 89 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Get fi
448hpsti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 11:19 AM   #13
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,543
Thanks: 2,002
Thanked 2,027 Times in 1,465 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSG Mike View Post
Light and cheap? RPF1.
Yea I was thinking that. I think that will need to wait for spring time. My current tires should last through to the spring. This way I can do tires, rims, and springs together to save on labor
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2013, 11:48 AM   #14
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,543
Thanks: 2,002
Thanked 2,027 Times in 1,465 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by 448hpsti View Post
Get fi
Why? That would just mask my mistakes. Driving principals are the same on the track in a slow car or fast car. Speed makes no difference.
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to jflogerzi For This Useful Post:
amram (02-18-2014), boxer 2.5 (09-29-2013), CSG Mike (09-29-2013), onefitz (09-30-2013), Racecomp Engineering (09-30-2013)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What should I spend my money on sf86 Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 49 11-28-2012 04:34 PM
Next CDC Autocross SATurday October 27th and TNT SUNday October 28th echan Mid-Atlantic 7 10-30-2012 09:47 AM
Autocross October 13 at Bramalea Go Station 7thgear CANADA 11 10-12-2012 07:56 PM
2nd Slot $10 Discount for Next CDC Autocross SATurday October 13th Bowie Baysox echan Mid-Atlantic 0 10-03-2012 06:52 PM
Please be aware where you spend your money KronosPerformance User/Vendor/Sponsor Reviews, Feedback, Comments 0 07-28-2012 08:28 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.