Forced Induction for Automatic Transmission

[Froylavin]

I'm looking into getting a super or turbo for my Auto GT86.

As it seems right now, the only options that are fully tested on the AT are the Vortech and Innovate Supers, and the AVO Turbo.

I'm looking to keep my car as a daily driver but my final target would be somewhere in the range of 300hp a couple years down the line.

Any input from AT owners that are running any of these kits? Which is the most difficult to install?

I was leaning towards a Vortech Super because the Innovate kit seems limited in its output down the line. Then there's the AVO turbo kit which already is available Stage 2 for AT... Impressions?

[howardf]

P & L Motorsports has an automatic shop car also: http://pandlmotorsports.com/p-and-l-...-dragroad-car/

[pixel67]

FA20Club has a few that are AT. Check the owners thread here but i can't recall which one is an AT. My kit is being installed this week and is also an AT so should be able to provide some additional feedback soon.

[regal]

The AT would be an ideal turbo setup.

[Delsy]

I have an AT GT86, and installed a Vortech SC with perrin tune.

[whataboutbob]

I've been running the Innovate Motorsports SC on my AT car for 3800 miles.

I have previous mechanical experience as a mtn bike mechanic, and I mounted it myself in 5.75 hours. The install wasn't difficult at all, the parts are all labeled and the install manual is well laid out with photos for each step. Flashing the tune is like updating firmware on your network router. Car started up on first try and I've had no issues with the system.

My daily commute is 80+ miles, mostly freeway. If I drive conservatively I get about 28-29 MPG.

The power delivery is smooth and linear. Boost kicks in at about 2500-2800 RPMs and pulls all the way to redline. I've had manual NA drivers following me on the freeway who told me that they had to drop 2 gears to keep up with me when I stepped on the gas.

I've also been autocrossing for about a year now in the car. I can say for sure that on courses where I'd be in 2nd and going slow when the car was NA it took a couple of seconds for the motor to rev up and get back into the power band. With the supercharger on now that is no longer an issue. I get immediate acceleration out of the turns. I haven't added an oil cooler yet, but I've not seen any increase in the car's running temperature.

One thing that I've noticed is that the auto tries to keep the RPMs low, and the Innovate kit delivers power nicely in the lower RPM range.

Here's a link with some videos I took right after the SC install:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=133
And here's a dyno graph from a Mustang dyno (not the best pull that day):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=139

I think that with the intercooler kit, headers, a custom tune (I'm running the Innovate 91 basemap), and some other mods you could get really close to 300. Keep in mind that it isn't just peak HP that matters, it is the area under the curve.
Hope this helps.
:happy0180:

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

I've been running the Innovate Motorsports SC on my AT car for 3800 miles.

I have previous mechanical experience as a mtn bike mechanic, and I mounted it myself in 5.75 hours. The install wasn't difficult at all, the parts are all labeled and the install manual is well laid out with photos for each step. Flashing the tune is like updating firmware on your network router. Car started up on first try and I've had no issues with the system.

My daily commute is 80+ miles, mostly freeway. If I drive conservatively I get about 28-29 MPG.

The power delivery is smooth and linear. Boost kicks in at about 2500-2800 RPMs and pulls all the way to redline. I've had manual NA drivers following me on the freeway who told me that they had to drop 2 gears to keep up with me when I stepped on the gas.

I've also been autocrossing for about a year now in the car. I can say for sure that on courses where I'd be in 2nd and going slow when the car was NA it took a couple of seconds for the motor to rev up and get back into the power band. With the supercharger on now that is no longer an issue. I get immediate acceleration out of the turns. I haven't added an oil cooler yet, but I've not seen any increase in the car's running temperature.

One thing that I've noticed is that the auto tries to keep the RPMs low, and the Innovate kit delivers power nicely in the lower RPM range.

Here's a link with some videos I took right after the SC install:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=133
And here's a dyno graph from a Mustang dyno (not the best pull that day):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=139

I think that with the intercooler kit, headers, a custom tune (I'm running the Innovate 91 basemap), and some other mods you could get really close to 300. Keep in mind that it isn't just peak HP that matters, it is the area under the curve.
Hope this helps.
:happy0180:

Do you feel like the tranny is a bit twitchy? Notice anything at all with the tranny compared to stock?

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Do you feel like the tranny is a bit twitchy? Notice anything at all with the tranny compared to stock?

Not at all. Auto/Sport Mode (DD), Manual/Nannies off (AutoX), feels great to me.

[Pitman]

Fensport, the UK agents for AVO have a shop auto fitted with the AVO turbo kit.
http://www.fensport.co.uk/FensportCars/GT86_Street.aspx

[Froylavin]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

I've been running the Innovate Motorsports SC on my AT car for 3800 miles.

I have previous mechanical experience as a mtn bike mechanic, and I mounted it myself in 5.75 hours. The install wasn't difficult at all, the parts are all labeled and the install manual is well laid out with photos for each step. Flashing the tune is like updating firmware on your network router. Car started up on first try and I've had no issues with the system.

My daily commute is 80+ miles, mostly freeway. If I drive conservatively I get about 28-29 MPG.

The power delivery is smooth and linear. Boost kicks in at about 2500-2800 RPMs and pulls all the way to redline. I've had manual NA drivers following me on the freeway who told me that they had to drop 2 gears to keep up with me when I stepped on the gas.

I've also been autocrossing for about a year now in the car. I can say for sure that on courses where I'd be in 2nd and going slow when the car was NA it took a couple of seconds for the motor to rev up and get back into the power band. With the supercharger on now that is no longer an issue. I get immediate acceleration out of the turns. I haven't added an oil cooler yet, but I've not seen any increase in the car's running temperature.

One thing that I've noticed is that the auto tries to keep the RPMs low, and the Innovate kit delivers power nicely in the lower RPM range.

Here's a link with some videos I took right after the SC install:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=133
And here's a dyno graph from a Mustang dyno (not the best pull that day):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=139

I think that with the intercooler kit, headers, a custom tune (I'm running the Innovate 91 basemap), and some other mods you could get really close to 300. Keep in mind that it isn't just peak HP that matters, it is the area under the curve.
Hope this helps.
:happy0180:

Fantastic input, thank you!

Anyone can chime in similarly for a Avo Turbo AT or a Vortech Super AT? Posts with similar information can really help put things into perspective

[dabocx]

Someone please write a "I want boost what now" FAQ and sticky it please.

[meadowz06]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

I've been running the Innovate Motorsports SC on my AT car for 3800 miles.

I have previous mechanical experience as a mtn bike mechanic, and I mounted it myself in 5.75 hours. The install wasn't difficult at all, the parts are all labeled and the install manual is well laid out with photos for each step. Flashing the tune is like updating firmware on your network router. Car started up on first try and I've had no issues with the system.

My daily commute is 80+ miles, mostly freeway. If I drive conservatively I get about 28-29 MPG.

The power delivery is smooth and linear. Boost kicks in at about 2500-2800 RPMs and pulls all the way to redline. I've had manual NA drivers following me on the freeway who told me that they had to drop 2 gears to keep up with me when I stepped on the gas.

I've also been autocrossing for about a year now in the car. I can say for sure that on courses where I'd be in 2nd and going slow when the car was NA it took a couple of seconds for the motor to rev up and get back into the power band. With the supercharger on now that is no longer an issue. I get immediate acceleration out of the turns. I haven't added an oil cooler yet, but I've not seen any increase in the car's running temperature.

One thing that I've noticed is that the auto tries to keep the RPMs low, and the Innovate kit delivers power nicely in the lower RPM range.

Here's a link with some videos I took right after the SC install:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=133
And here's a dyno graph from a Mustang dyno (not the best pull that day):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=139

I think that with the intercooler kit, headers, a custom tune (I'm running the Innovate 91 basemap), and some other mods you could get really close to 300. Keep in mind that it isn't just peak HP that matters, it is the area under the curve.
Hope this helps.
:happy0180:

Do you have ANY overheating problems on or off the track?
Thanks

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by meadowz06

Do you have ANY overheating problems on or off the track?
Thanks

I have not tracked the car. I AutoX it regularly and have had no heat issues. I also just got back from an extended road trip through the desert and had no overheating issues.

[rskdsk]

Turbos kit set-ups are famous for high HP but usually come with low reliability and constant tweaking of the maps. SC set-ups have lower HP (in general) but are much better for reliability and drivability ... FROM my experience ... and I have some experience (8 modded cars)