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1slowbrz · 08-13-2013, 12:31 AM

Hey, I'm having an issue getting everything running right on my fa20club turbo kit and am wondering if anyone has encountered a similar situation

We originally set it up to run on the stock fuel system, and 60 trim turbo.

On the base map it ran well, but as soon as it got to 0.00 vaccum/boost it died and stopped accelerating. I feel like I've checked everything a thousand times but don't know what the issue could have been

My only idea was that it could have been the fuel system, so I installed the fuel pump and 550cc injectors. Toni sent me a map for the new fuel system, and now it doesn't start at all.

Neither of us have any idea what the source of the problem could be, and its 100% isolated to me. I'm running out of ideas and paitence.

Thanks.

SmsAlSuwaidi · 08-13-2013, 01:57 AM

considering you just installed a new FP, I'd check that out

Sportsguy83 · 08-13-2013, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slowbrz

Hey, I'm having an issue getting everything running right on my fa20club turbo kit and am wondering if anyone has encountered a similar situation

We originally set it up to run on the stock fuel system, and 60 trim turbo.

On the base map it ran well, but as soon as it got to 0.00 vaccum/boost it died and stopped accelerating. I feel like I've checked everything a thousand times but don't know what the issue could have been

My only idea was that it could have been the fuel system, so I installed the fuel pump and 550cc injectors. Toni sent me a map for the new fuel system, and now it doesn't start at all.

Neither of us have any idea what the source of the problem could be, and its 100% isolated to me. I'm running out of ideas and paitence.

Thanks.

Check for boost leaks

Did you upgrade the MAP sensor?

(Please say yest o this one...) Do you have an AFR gauge? When it was dying and stopping acceleration, what did your AFR look like?

Where you logging with ECUtek? you can get an idea on AFR from the Log

How did you install the FP? See this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33993

Ross · 08-13-2013, 09:01 AM

I would recommend doing a boost leak test. What pump and injectors did you install? What wideband are you using? Is the maf some how installed wrong? How did yo do your vacuum distribution?

King Tut · 08-13-2013, 09:39 AM

If you installed a FP and it fails to start now, then I would almost surely say something went wrong with the FP install. Pull the fuel lines off where the quick disconnect fitting is and see if any fuel comes out when you prime the system. If fuel comes out and it still won't start then try holding the throttle wide open while starting and see if that does the trick. There is no way the OEM injectors and pump were the original cause of your issue.

mad_sb · 08-13-2013, 09:53 AM

^ I agree with @King Tut,

I suspect either a bad boost leak causing the initial issue at 0psi or it was overly rich or lean on the base map.

Entirely possible you missed something during the install of the kit since that is when the first issue appeared.

Andy@FA20Club · 08-13-2013, 10:35 AM

spoke with him today already.

1slowbrz · 08-13-2013, 10:42 PM

Thankfully the solution has been found! The problem was the fuel pump the whole time. A few things that aren't really mentioned in the instructions and are apparently VERY important. First off when the fuel pump is installed in the housing there are three pieces to be installed on the top of the fuel pump, the white plastic ring from the oem pump, and 2 Orings on top of it. Not using that white plastic ring causes a significant lack in fuel pressure. Sencondly, in the DW instructions it shows in the picture, but doesn't actually mention it in the instructions from what i've seen, the piece that clips to the bottom of the pump and housing (oem fuel filter attached to it) needs to be cut and the half that isn't under the pump needs to be clipped in to hold that metal piece in.

Thanks a ton to everyone at FA20Club for bearing with me and helping me figure out what the hell was going on!

Andy@FA20Club · 08-13-2013, 11:15 PM

we are here for you :happy0180:

Kiske · 08-13-2013, 11:24 PM

Good deal, FA20clubs service and support is easily the reason I'll be choosing them. IMO it is very rare to see a company help so many and get involved in the builds. Especially when it seems most companies go quite after they get the check in the mail. Before then they won't shut up.

Glad to hear you got it working.

Ny Brz · 08-13-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy@FA20Club

we are here for you :happy0180:

Thumbs up for these guys

Sportsguy83 · 08-14-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

How did you install the FP? See this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33993

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slowbrz

Thankfully the solution has been found! The problem was the fuel pump the whole time. A few things that aren't really mentioned in the instructions and are apparently VERY important. First off when the fuel pump is installed in the housing there are three pieces to be installed on the top of the fuel pump, the white plastic ring from the oem pump, and 2 Orings on top of it. Not using that white plastic ring causes a significant lack in fuel pressure. Sencondly, in the DW instructions it shows in the picture, but doesn't actually mention it in the instructions from what i've seen, the piece that clips to the bottom of the pump and housing (oem fuel filter attached to it) needs to be cut and the half that isn't under the pump needs to be clipped in to hold that metal piece in.

Thanks a ton to everyone at FA20Club for bearing with me and helping me figure out what the hell was going on!

The thread I posted in my reply has all the dirty details on FP install

Ny Brz · 08-14-2013, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

The thread I posted in my reply has all the dirty details on FP install

Oh crap thumbs up to this guy too...he always has something intuitive and helpful to say

. When I come down from NY I would to meet the local FL guys along with stopping by FA20 to hook up with Toni and Andy.

Sportsguy83 · 08-14-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ny Brz

Oh crap thumbs up to this guy too...he always has something intuitive and helpful to say

. When I come down from NY I would to meet the local FL guys along with stopping by FA20 to hook up with Toni and Andy.

Let me know when and we'll make it happen :happy0180:

08-13-2013, 12:31 AM	#1
1slowbrz Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2017 WRB BRZ PP Location: Green Bay Posts: 85 Thanks: 21 Thanked 30 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Turbo kit issues Hey, I'm having an issue getting everything running right on my fa20club turbo kit and am wondering if anyone has encountered a similar situation We originally set it up to run on the stock fuel system, and 60 trim turbo. On the base map it ran well, but as soon as it got to 0.00 vaccum/boost it died and stopped accelerating. I feel like I've checked everything a thousand times but don't know what the issue could have been My only idea was that it could have been the fuel system, so I installed the fuel pump and 550cc injectors. Toni sent me a map for the new fuel system, and now it doesn't start at all. Neither of us have any idea what the source of the problem could be, and its 100% isolated to me. I'm running out of ideas and paitence. Thanks.

08-13-2013, 01:57 AM	#2
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08-13-2013, 09:39 AM	#5
King Tut NASA SpecE30 Racer Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2006 Honda S2000 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 7,279 Thanks: 607 Thanked 5,759 Times in 3,055 Posts Mentioned: 274 Post(s) Tagged: 10 Thread(s)	If you installed a FP and it fails to start now, then I would almost surely say something went wrong with the FP install. Pull the fuel lines off where the quick disconnect fitting is and see if any fuel comes out when you prime the system. If fuel comes out and it still won't start then try holding the throttle wide open while starting and see if that does the trick. There is no way the OEM injectors and pump were the original cause of your issue. __________________ - King Tut Street/Track Car: 2006 Honda S2000 TT3 \|\| Race Car: 1987 BMW 325is SpecE30 \|\| Tow Vehicle: 2014 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Sold Cars: 2012 BMW M3 \|\| 2013 Subaru BRZ \|\| 2012 Porsche Cayman R \|\| 2009 Chevrolet Z06 \|\| 2009 BMW M3 \|\| 2004 BMW M3 \|\| 2004 Nissan 350Z

08-13-2013, 09:53 AM	#6
mad_sb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Orange County Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 632 Thanked 981 Times in 537 Posts Mentioned: 100 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ I agree with @King Tut, I suspect either a bad boost leak causing the initial issue at 0psi or it was overly rich or lean on the base map. Entirely possible you missed something during the install of the kit since that is when the first issue appeared. __________________ ~Namaste~ 2013 Asphalt FRS

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Ross Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 85 corolla gts Location: Chesapeake , Va Posts: 361 Thanks: 17 Thanked 177 Times in 110 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would recommend doing a boost leak test. What pump and injectors did you install? What wideband are you using? Is the maf some how installed wrong? How did yo do your vacuum distribution?

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1slowbrz Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2017 WRB BRZ PP Location: Green Bay Posts: 85 Thanks: 21 Thanked 30 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thankfully the solution has been found! The problem was the fuel pump the whole time. A few things that aren't really mentioned in the instructions and are apparently VERY important. First off when the fuel pump is installed in the housing there are three pieces to be installed on the top of the fuel pump, the white plastic ring from the oem pump, and 2 Orings on top of it. Not using that white plastic ring causes a significant lack in fuel pressure. Sencondly, in the DW instructions it shows in the picture, but doesn't actually mention it in the instructions from what i've seen, the piece that clips to the bottom of the pump and housing (oem fuel filter attached to it) needs to be cut and the half that isn't under the pump needs to be clipped in to hold that metal piece in. Thanks a ton to everyone at FA20Club for bearing with me and helping me figure out what the hell was going on!

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Andy@FA20Club Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: FA20Club.com Location: South Flo Posts: 496 Thanks: 14 Thanked 115 Times in 72 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	we are here for you :happy0180:

08-13-2013, 11:24 PM	#10
Kiske Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: RX-7 / BRZ Location: USA Posts: 2,345 Thanks: 1,027 Thanked 2,501 Times in 1,081 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Good deal, FA20clubs service and support is easily the reason I'll be choosing them. IMO it is very rare to see a company help so many and get involved in the builds. Especially when it seems most companies go quite after they get the check in the mail. Before then they won't shut up. Glad to hear you got it working.

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