Kreissieg Exhaust

[zephyr69]

Hey guys,


For those who don't know, Kreissieg is a premier exhaust maker from Yokohama Japan. They make exhaust systems for brands like ferrari, lamborghini, porsche and etc. They are well known for their valvetronic exhausts which imitates high pitch F1 sound.

Having driven my TRD 86 for about two months now, I've been quite disappointed by the exhaust note. This may be because the Japan TRD exhaust is only an axleback. So I tried looking online for almost a month now but none of the exhausts really sound that good in my opinion. Even the higher end exhausts like Tommy Kaira and Amuse have quite mediocre exhaust note imho.

Anyways, having heard a friend's Kreissieg exhaust in his lambo (I know a flat four can never sound as exotic as a italian V10), however I was really curious whether they could help make something special for my 86. I decided to send an email to them and see what they think.

I received a reply from a Kreissieg representative saying that they can craft one of their valvetronic exhaust systems that will fit my TRD rear bumper.
I specifically asked for a quad titanium tip exhaust because I feel that dual tips for the 86 always look too big relative to the actual piping. They will also provide a wireless remote control to control the opening and closing of the valves which controls the sound level (level 2 & 5). level 2 being sport exhaust and level 5 being high pitch F1 mode.

The price is $4200 dollars, which includes a one-off system, air shipping, and remote controls for the valves. It will take approximately 2 months for development, testing and shipping.

Now I know many of you are thinking "WTF! An exhaust for $4200 on a 86?" But please keep in mind that the base car in Hong Kong costs approx 50,000 USD. And I have already spend half of that amount adding most if not all TRD upgrades available (Lol, couldnt help it).

Before I spend this money, I would like to get some valuable input from you guys.

What do you guys think? If you had the money, would you pay for this exhaust system? Or should I keep the TRD exhaust and wait for possible header/midpipe upgrades from them? Any constructive/valuable comments are much appreciated. Thanks!

[Symmetrical]

Honestly that amount of money spent on a single item is going to depend on the person. I think there are some people who spent $2500+USD on a M7 exhaust or even $2500 on the JDM STI exhaust, and they find value in it if it makes them happy.

But you know a majority of normal people that don't have disposable income, will spend no more than $800 on a full exhaust system.

So basically I'm saying, if you think $4200USD is worth it for an exhaust if it gives you the sound you are seeking for and makes you happy, then go for it.

But in my personal opinion, I'd rather get a SuperCharger or Turbo kit for that type of money.

[xsuperbeex]

If you find the amuse exhaust isnt good enough just use the money to change header/frontpipe/midpipe since if that exhaust will only be catback there is not much diferrent than amuse except it can get less loud.. with that said.. you heard the amuse exhaust with amuse front pipe or just the exhaust?

[zephyr69]

Originally Posted by xsuperbeex

If you find the amuse exhaust isnt good enough just use the money to change header/frontpipe/midpipe since if that exhaust will only be catback there is not much diferrent than amuse except it can get less loud.. with that said.. you heard the amuse exhaust with amuse front pipe or just the exhaust?

I think I heard the amuse video with just exhaust..not 100% sure. Will try to look for some sound clips again.

[frslee]

I think you're hitting the wrong audience here. Exhaust sound is important, but spending hefty $4200 on exhaust with no significant performance increase won't attract customers. Not sure about countries abroad, but I am sure all the people in the states will spend their money on something else like supercharger, turbo, header, much more options that will yield better result than just an amazing sound.

[STV3]

I'd say unless they can guarantee this exhaust will make your car sound like an LFA don't bother. Then again if you can swing the cash it would be pretty cool to have a one of a kind exhaust system.

[jamesm]

you'd have to be a complete moron to spend $4200 on a bunch of pretty pipe. it's an exhaust system. all it has to do is give exhaust a way out the back. there are just so many far cheaper ways to accomplish this that i can't imagine anyone actually buying into that.

then again, people pay $3k+ for wheels so who knows. there's a sucker born every minute i guess.

[qoncept]

IMO, if you aren't happy with the exhaust note with what you've heard, you're never going to be. I know I'll never like it after 10 years with my WRX. So I got a quiet catback. I would never spend even a quarter of that price on an exhaust, and certainly not on one I'd never heard.

[sumo junkie]

I'm going to go against the grain here, but if you're in the financial position to afford it, why not? People buy 100,000USD watches that tell time no better than a 10USD Casio, but they can afford it and that's what they enjoy. You've done everything else you wanted to do to your car; buy the exhaust and love it.

[dabocx]

If you have the money go for it but they should make it a headerback at least. Its a shame if they spend all this money designing this perfect sounding catback and then you put a front pipe and header and everything changes.

For the super high price I think id get the amuse setup.

[Clipdat]

That's because you did.... By the same OP... www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35265

[zephyr69]

Originally Posted by Marchy

wow i had deja vu reading the op post. i swear i read the exact same post months ago.

yeah. I had posted a couple months ago. But recently I have been thinking about it again hahah.

[zephyr69]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

That's because you did.... By the same OP... www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35265

Apologies for the repost.

[zephyr69]

Originally Posted by frslee

I think you're hitting the wrong audience here. Exhaust sound is important, but spending hefty $4200 on exhaust with no significant performance increase won't attract customers. Not sure about countries abroad, but I am sure all the people in the states will spend their money on something else like supercharger, turbo, header, much more options that will yield better result than just an amazing sound.

Thanks for your comment. I agree $4200 is a insane amount to spend on an exhaust just for sound. definitely thinking twice about this. The thing is I am planning upgrade the car bit by bit. Planning to go NA route..however..as of now there are not much substantial NA options besides I/H/E, lightweight pullies, and etc.