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SCCA SOLO August Fastrack.
AUG FASTRACK
Pay attention to some of the wording in this. It could catch some of you with your builds. Personally I am glad they took my recommendation to allow Different Steering wheels as long as it retains the stock airbag. Bill
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I wonder who wrote this letter:
#10353 New ST Class Proposal The STAC does not believe the FRS/BRZ should have its own ST class. ![]() ![]()
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Bill, maybe you could call our attention to the areas where you think extra attention is needed... that is a...uhh... busy fastrack to say the least.
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It's good to see the twins are back in CS. It's interesting to see the proposal for moving the 240sx from DSP to FSP (I'm finishing my autox season in my very underprepared DSP impreza wagon).
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Yep. Definitely nice to see the twins back in CS. If it was in ES, it would've have been a PAX monster in my opinion.
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What it says: #11316 Steering Wheel Clarification Per the STAC, change 14.2.D as follows: “D. Alternate steering wheels are allowed except that steering wheels with an integral airbag may only be substituted with OE airbag wheels from the same model.” Reasoning: This will allow for option package conversions. The important parts are bolded. What this says is that you can swap wheels OEM to OEM (for example, the factory wheels from a '96 328i and a '98 328i would be interchangeable), but it doesn't allow "different" airbag wheels that are not OEM or are from a different car altogether. The stock airbag isn't the only thing that matters here - in fact, it's secondary.
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Seems pretty clear to me too. It says *OE* Airbag wheels, not *any* airbag wheel. When it comes to rules, details matter. It might keep you from accusing someone, or being accused by someone, of cheating when that's really not the case. There is a lesson there.
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thanks for the interpetation
and for the Record.. Mine "IS" a OE wheel just recovered.
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So I guess my letter was NOT Addressed then,
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Bill,
I think the re-covering of a wheel would fall under 13.2A as comfort and convenience and would be legal, even per stock/"Street" regulation... same thing as recovering a stock seat as long as it is done in the same way as the OE (IE: can't recover with holes left open for belts to pass through) 13.2A Accessories, gauges, indicators, lights and other appearance, comfort and convenience modifications which have no effect on performance and/or handling and do not materially reduce the weight of the car are permitted. (BTW SAC should realize a lot of 13.2 rules have nothing to do with the 13.2 header of "Bodywork") I think a lot of people are too quick to poo-poo silly mods as "illegal" without really thinking about if it falls under 13.2A. With that said, some of the ones in your link are of a different shape or size than the OE wheel, and wouldn't fall under 13.2A and would be illegal per the current rules.
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I believe their intent is:
Cars that came with an OEM airbag need to keep the OEM airbag (and wheel) because otherwise it would not be STreet legal. If you want to replace your OEM airbag and wheel with another one from the same model you can. I don't think they will ever let us get rid of the stock airbag, therefore we're stuck with the stock wheel. I read a good letter from Danny Kao requesting that first gen airbags (94-98) should be allowed to be removed since they weren't really required in the first place. But that doesn't really apply to this forum. |
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If you check out Bill's link, you will see a different option, one which allows an aftermarket steering wheel of a slightly different diameter, or shape, which is designed to work with the OE airbag and steering wheel controls. Under the current ruleset these are illegal, but if the wording were changed to an airbag restriction instead of the wheel restriction, would be legal. As far as DOT legal... not sure how that works, but it has the OE airbag, which from a DOT standpoint is what you are not allowed to tamper with.
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