FR-S, A Rebadged Subaru? (Article) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Techfl3x · 07-01-2013, 09:02 PM

Saw this comment on a Detroit News article:
"Only one Scion product is doing well this year, the new FR-S sports car, and it is actually a rebadged Subaru. Without it, Scion sales would be down sharply."

Sorry sir, you're wrong.

Source: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2XqE6XPng

Anaxilus · 07-01-2013, 09:05 PM

What did you expect from Detroit?

frosty86 · 07-01-2013, 09:05 PM

I give him a 1/10 for the effort. Cool trolling though.

campy · 07-01-2013, 09:07 PM

Good for page views I suppose.

dem00n · 07-01-2013, 09:07 PM

I guess our cars are boring, i guess i'll go sell mine.

I guess i'll go buy a V6 mustang since that's the only right choice.

I guess i'll get the Chinese automatic to go with the all American V6 Ford Mustang.

I don't understand those comments.

forzajuve · 07-01-2013, 09:11 PM

100% Grade-A, American douche bag.

Just wrote him my thoughts:

Hi Bryce,
Your article was pretty bad. Especially the, "Only one Scion product is doing well this year, the new FR-S sports car, and it is actually a rebadged Subaru. Without it, Scion sales would be down sharply." part. I didn't know clowns were being hired to write car articles. Please, do your research before writing an article because you are obviously misinformed and clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever heard of the brand Toyota? Have you ever heard of the GT 86? Do you know what a partnership is? Do us all a favor and stop writing articles. Save yourself more future embarrassment.
Thanks.

RRnold · 07-01-2013, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoForStoke

Saw this comment on a Detroit News article:
"Only one Scion product is doing well this year, the new FR-S sports car, and it is actually a rebadged Subaru. Without it, Scion sales would be down sharply."

Sorry sir, you're wrong.

Source: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2XqE6XPng

What's wrong with that? The FR-S was branded a Scion badge to save the struggling brand and both FR-S and BRZ are manufactured out of Subaru's FHI plant. Both have Subaru's chassis, drivetrain, boxer engine and lower quality.

forzajuve · 07-01-2013, 09:25 PM

They allow clowns on this forum too?

coyote · 07-01-2013, 09:35 PM

I don't understand all the upset.

I have a rebadged Subaru in my garage and I'm very happy with it.

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Tromatic · 07-01-2013, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyote

I don't understand all the upset.

I have a rebadged Subaru in my garage and I'm very happy with it.

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Same here.

Demotic · 07-01-2013, 10:21 PM

What is up with the circlejerk here? Toyota branded the car Scion because Scion was doing horrible. And the writer is not far from the truth. We are really driving a Subaru with Toyota adjustments and shell.

thill · 07-01-2013, 10:33 PM

The car was a joint venture, and I know both companies take credit for it. Without both Toyota and Subaru, the car would not exist today as we know it. I don't think the author had malicious intent. The author was correct about Scion though. Prior to the FR-S, sales were in the crapper. They went from a high of 173K cars sold in 2007 to 49K cars sold in 2011 (US numbers). In 2012 they sold almost 74K cars, so almost double.

You can't really blame Toyota for trying to infuse intrest in the Scion brand. Honestly, without the FR-S, the brand was in danger of going away. For those of you who have some odd phobia about having a Scion or Subaru brand on your car just debadge it and put a Toyota badge on it.

Rampage · 07-01-2013, 10:47 PM

I cannot say that I disagree with anything in that article. Lift your hood and find a body panel that does not have Subaru stamped on it.

That does not make the triplets (GT86/FR-S/BRZ) any less of a great car.

Dorb · 07-01-2013, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n

I guess our cars are boring, i guess i'll go sell mine.

I guess i'll go buy a V6 mustang since that's the only right choice.

I guess i'll get the Chinese automatic to go with the all American V6 Ford Mustang.

I don't understand those comments.

Yep drive anywhere 15 mins and count how many mustangs or Camaros you see. Another reason I bought what I did, just don't see any of the twins.

07-01-2013, 09:02 PM	#1
Techfl3x Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Firestorm Red FRS/86 MT Location: So Cal South Bay LA/ 626 Posts: 182 Thanks: 177 Thanked 57 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FR-S, A Rebadged Subaru? (Article) Saw this comment on a Detroit News article: "Only one Scion product is doing well this year, the new FR-S sports car, and it is actually a rebadged Subaru. Without it, Scion sales would be down sharply." Sorry sir, you're wrong. Source: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz2XqE6XPng __________________ Last edited by Techfl3x; 07-01-2013 at 09:12 PM.

07-01-2013, 09:07 PM	#5
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I guess our cars are boring, i guess i'll go sell mine. I guess i'll go buy a V6 mustang since that's the only right choice. I guess i'll get the Chinese automatic to go with the all American V6 Ford Mustang. I don't understand those comments. __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

07-01-2013, 10:47 PM	#13
Rampage Senior Member/Old Fanboi Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2000 2ZZ-GE MR2 Spyder HT Location: Back home in Ohio now Posts: 2,446 Thanks: 1,931 Thanked 2,014 Times in 915 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I cannot say that I disagree with anything in that article. Lift your hood and find a body panel that does not have Subaru stamped on it. That does not make the triplets (GT86/FR-S/BRZ) any less of a great car. __________________ So many modders have more cents than sense!

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07-01-2013, 09:05 PM	#2
Anaxilus Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: They have four wheels Location: United States Posts: 482 Thanks: 59 Thanked 199 Times in 114 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What did you expect from Detroit?

07-01-2013, 09:05 PM	#3
frosty86 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (Whiteout) Manual Location: Hawaii Posts: 247 Thanks: 73 Thanked 164 Times in 72 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I give him a 1/10 for the effort. Cool trolling though.

07-01-2013, 09:07 PM	#4
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07-01-2013, 09:11 PM	#6
forzajuve Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Ultramarine 86 - 6MT Location: California Posts: 533 Thanks: 184 Thanked 139 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	100% Grade-A, American douche bag. Just wrote him my thoughts: Hi Bryce, Your article was pretty bad. Especially the, "Only one Scion product is doing well this year, the new FR-S sports car, and it is actually a rebadged Subaru. Without it, Scion sales would be down sharply." part. I didn't know clowns were being hired to write car articles. Please, do your research before writing an article because you are obviously misinformed and clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever heard of the brand Toyota? Have you ever heard of the GT 86? Do you know what a partnership is? Do us all a favor and stop writing articles. Save yourself more future embarrassment. Thanks.

07-01-2013, 09:25 PM	#8
forzajuve Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Ultramarine 86 - 6MT Location: California Posts: 533 Thanks: 184 Thanked 139 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They allow clowns on this forum too?

07-01-2013, 09:35 PM	#9
coyote Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Slowly Location: brisbane.qld.au Posts: 1,064 Thanks: 212 Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I don't understand all the upset. I have a rebadged Subaru in my garage and I'm very happy with it. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

07-01-2013, 10:21 PM	#11
Demotic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, IS-300, 2004 VW R3 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 101 Thanks: 22 Thanked 23 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What is up with the circlejerk here? Toyota branded the car Scion because Scion was doing horrible. And the writer is not far from the truth. We are really driving a Subaru with Toyota adjustments and shell.

07-01-2013, 10:33 PM	#12
thill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner) Location: North Pole Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 328 Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The car was a joint venture, and I know both companies take credit for it. Without both Toyota and Subaru, the car would not exist today as we know it. I don't think the author had malicious intent. The author was correct about Scion though. Prior to the FR-S, sales were in the crapper. They went from a high of 173K cars sold in 2007 to 49K cars sold in 2011 (US numbers). In 2012 they sold almost 74K cars, so almost double. You can't really blame Toyota for trying to infuse intrest in the Scion brand. Honestly, without the FR-S, the brand was in danger of going away. For those of you who have some odd phobia about having a Scion or Subaru brand on your car just debadge it and put a Toyota badge on it.

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