Dealer wants to use what oil???

[RevoG]

This is a direct quote from facebook from the Toyota UAE page where the locals have kicked up on everything from servicing standards to the costs. The local distributor, who is also the only distributor, came back this with quote:

"The Toyota service intervals for the Toyota 86 are specified by Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) and are set to be 7500kms for harsh environments and 15,000kms for “normal” usage, provided the recommended mineral oil such as SAE0W-20 or 5W-30 is being used. The Toyota UAE vehicles come with unique changes made to all aspects of the vehicles to suit the harsh GCC environment. This is why service intervals in the GCC are different from those followed in other parts of the world."

Can anyone please confirm if we are to run Synthetic or mineral oil? I was under the impression that Synthetic was the only thing that is supposed to go into this engine.

Awaiting some advise.

[ROJ]

And here is a direct link to the rant going on the Toyota UAE page regarding this absurd replies, feel free to comment:
https://www.facebook.com/ToyotaUAE/p..._t=share_reply

[504]

As far as I know, all 0W-20 oils are synthetic. I seriously doubt any mineral oil would last 15000 km on "normal" driving anyways so its probably a mistake made by Toyota

[bluesubie]

There are even very few synthetics that would last for 15,000 km's, especially a 0W-20, IMO. Hopefully, everyone there falls under the harsh environment schedule.

I wonder what this means as it relates to oil?
"The Toyota UAE vehicles come with unique changes made to all aspects of the vehicles to suit the harsh GCC environment."

And:
"The engine oil recommended for the 86 is not a standard oil..."

What oil is recommended? Is there a high TBN oil recommended? Or a special long life oil, similar to BMW Long Life specs (but that would only be a Euro ACEA A3 oil and is not available as a 0W-20).

-Dennis

[RevoG]

Can someone please confirm that our cars should take full synthetic only? Mine has got to go for service next week at the dealer to keep the warranty and I need to make sure the correct oil is used.

[bluesubie]

Originally Posted by RevoG

Can someone please confirm that our cars should take full synthetic only? Mine has got to go for service next week at the dealer to keep the warranty and I need to make sure the correct oil is used.

Our owner's manual will be different than yours, but it should be synthetic regardless of oil grade. From the N. American BRZ manual:

Engine oil selection
Always use SUBARU approved engine oil. For details, we recommend that you contact your SUBARU dealer.
If approved engine oil is unavailable, another motor oil of matching quality can also be used.

Oil grade: ILSAC multigrade engine oil
Recommended viscosity: SAE 0W-20
SAE 0W-20 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good starting in cold weather.

Oil viscosity (0W-20 is explained here as an example):
• The 0W in 0W-20 indicates the characteristic of the oil which allows
cold startability. Oils with a lower value before the W allow for easier
starting of the engine in cold weather.
• The 20 in 0W-20 indicates the viscosity characteristic of the oil when
the oil is at high temperature. An oil with a higher viscosity (one with a
higher value) may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high
speeds, or under extreme load conditions.

How to read oil container label:
The ILSAC (International Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee) Certification Mark is added to some oil containers to help you select the oil you should use.

I presume that they do not actually use the word "synthetic" since 0W-20 is only synthetic or synthetic blend and 5W-30 isn't specficially mentioned in the owner's manual.

Also, "synthetic" is a marketing term and has no formal industry definition.

-Dennis