Just got an alignment..

[Scalzo]

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I wanted to have less camber in the rear but he said it's better like this?
For the people that know very well alignments, this seems good?

[Racecomp Engineering]

I would not be happy with that alignment. Too much rear camber, not enough front, and it's uneven.

Do you have adjustable parts or is it all factory? If it's all factory then he can't really do anything with camber so it's not his fault.

- Andy

[2point0]

Less than -3 in the rear? Or did you mean "less negative" as in -2 or so? Seems like a lot of negative in the rear if that's stock. What do you have for adjustment back there? Are you lowered, etc? Need some more info. Looks like they just changed toe and any other small changes were are result of that.

Front needs to be more negative. If you're not at least -1 degree, you're not having as much fun as you could be. I don't recall exactly, but I'm somewhere between -1 and -1.4 or so. It really woke up the cornering.

[xwd]

His build thread says they are HSD coilovers. So it's probably dropped with no adjustment parts in the rear.

It looks like those come with camber plates, my guess is the shop or OP didn't know how to adjust them?

[Scalzo]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

I would not be happy with that alignment. Too much rear camber, not enough front, and it's uneven.

Do you have adjustable parts or is it all factory? If it's all factory then he can't really do anything with camber so it's not his fault.

- Andy

Everything is still stock, I don't know exactly what else to get to adjust,
I have the HSD coilovers.

Originally Posted by 2point0

Less than -3 in the rear? Or did you mean "less negative" as in -2 or so? Seems like a lot of negative in the rear if that's stock. What do you have for adjustment back there? Are you lowered, etc? Need some more info. Looks like they just changed toe and any other small changes were are result of that.

Front needs to be more negative. If you're not at least -1 degree, you're not having as much fun as you could be. I don't recall exactly, but I'm somewhere between -1 and -1.4 or so. It really woke up the cornering.

Yeah thats what i meant more straighter in the rear. I just have the coilovers, and i dropped it.

Originally Posted by dwx

His build thread says they are HSD coilovers. So it's probably dropped with no adjustment parts in the rear.

It looks like those come with camber plates, my guess is the shop or OP didn't know how to adjust them?

I played around with the camber plate on the top in the front , instead of having the knob at 0 i have it at -4. :S hard to explain,

I have the black knob at -4, isn't that how you adjust them?

[2point0]

Originally Posted by Scalzo

I played around with the camber plate on the top in the front , instead of having the knob at 0 i have it at -4. :S hard to explain,

I have the black knob at -4, isn't that how you adjust them?

The knob is for stiffness of the strut. The slotted holes with 3 bolts (should be 4...did one snap a head?) are where you adjust camber. Slide towards the engine for more negative camber, towards the fender for more positive. This throws off toe, so you shouldn't just move it around without an alignment.

The shop should know this. They were probably just putting your car back to "OEM spec" or as close as possible with the parts they had to work with. Which is dumb. Who gets camber plates to adjust for 0 degrees?

Also, I'm not sure about those coilovers, but some allow you to turn the top plate so that the slots are not directly perpendicular to the car's centerline. Meaning that moving inwards would also move them BACK (i.e. changing caster as well).

[Scalzo]

Originally Posted by 2point0

The knob is for stiffness of the strut. The slotted holes with 3 bolts (should be 4...did one snap a head?) are where you adjust camber. Slide towards the engine for more negative camber, towards the fender for more positive. This throws off toe, so you shouldn't just move it around without an alignment.

The shop should know this. They were probably just putting your car back to "OEM spec" or as close as possible with the parts they had to work with. Which is dumb. Who gets camber plates to adjust for 0 degrees?

Problem is I don't know a lot about suspension, besides lowering it lol
I can go back, and get re adjusted. He was trying to bring it back to OEM as possible. One did snap but it got replaced and fix. but I got
ENGINE | I I I I I I I I O I I I I I I I I | FENDER
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So it's on -4? which i thought is a lot of camber, so i should adjust it -6? Or just leave it as is since it'll screw up the toe, and pick up this http://ft86speedfactory.com/cusco-ad...e-lca-100.html and then get an alignment?

[JoeBoxer]

Cusco LCA is a fine product, SPC will do the job though for half the price.

[2point0]

These are two different things, front vs. rear.

Front: I have no idea what the hashes should indicate in regards to acutal degrees, but they should be able to get you at least -1 degrees front.

Rear: Camber is not adjustable stock or with any coilovers, since they are not a strut in back. You need either adjustable LCAs or rear upper control arm bushings like what Whiteline makes. I haven't done either, but the bushings look like a huge pain to install and labor to do this and adjust might just make the LCAs a better deal anyway.

[Scalzo]

Alright i'll head back to get it aligned when i order my Cusco LCAs.

I'm ok driving like this those right?

[Scalzo]

Originally Posted by 2point0

These are two different things, front vs. rear.

Front: I have no idea what the hashes should indicate in regards to acutal degrees, but they should be able to get you at least -1 degrees front.

Rear: Camber is not adjustable stock or with any coilovers, since they are not a strut in back. You need either adjustable LCAs or rear upper control arm bushings like what Whiteline makes. I haven't done either, but the bushings look like a huge pain to install and labor to do this and adjust might just make the LCAs a better deal anyway.

So for the front i should be -2 and the rear -1.5?

[Racecomp Engineering]

The hashes are more like guidelines, they are not really exact.

Your camber plates may be installed backwards. Hard to tell from the pic.

What type of driving do you do? Any auto-x or track days?

You should probably get some rear lower control arms so you can adjust rear camber.

- Andy

[Scalzo]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

The hashes are more like guidelines, they are not really exact.

Your camber plates may be installed backwards. Hard to tell from the pic.

What type of driving do you do? Any auto-x or track days?

You should probably get some rear lower control arms so you can adjust rear camber.

- Andy

I do dragging once in a blue moon. but I might do one or two tracking days once the car is done

thinking of getting these,
http://www.racerxfabrication.com/pag...art/index.html

[funbeatsfast]

If the strut brace mounts are pointing towards the engine bay, then the camber plates are in backwards.