Just laid down a deposit and...

[Dillano609]

I pre-ordered my FR-S today, from Pauly Scion in Crystal Lake, IL and according to the dealers they are expecting some more info about the FR-S in a few days. I also learned they are expecting the car a little bit before June, maybe in May or even April. I'm second in line for the car aside for one of the first 86 winners who decided to pick the car up from here. This will be my first NEW car, I'm so excited

[kmbkk]

Hopefully we will find out more information in a few days. Just not knowing is driving me crazy!

[FREDUKE]

All you guys per-ordering, are only giving the car companies to price it higher because you guys are showing a demand.

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think if no one would be pre-ordering it, Toyota/Subaru would have doubt and price it lower than expected.


Thanks >:O

[Dark]

Originally Posted by FREDUKE

All you guys per-ordering, are only giving the car companies to price it higher because you guys are showing a demand.

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think if no one would be pre-ordering it, Toyota/Subaru would have doubt and price it lower than expected.


Thanks >:O

It doesn't work that way though. They still make sure to maximize the profit. Fortunately for some people, Scion use pure pricing, so there is no mark up or anything.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by FREDUKE

All you guys per-ordering, are only giving the car companies to price it higher because you guys are showing a demand.

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think if no one would be pre-ordering it, Toyota/Subaru would have doubt and price it lower than expected.


Thanks >:O

Only a few dealers are doing pre-orders. Most are just managing lists.

[Grimlock]

Originally Posted by Dark

It doesn't work that way though. They still make sure to maximize the profit. Fortunately for some people, Scion use pure pricing, so there is no mark up or anything.

All Pure Pricing means is that if they advertise a price, then that what anybody that wants the car will pay. No haggling or mark up from there. If they want to add a mark up, they will.


Source: http://secure.scion.com/faq/#faq=faq-pure-price

Scion's Pure Price purchase experiences means: No Haggle. No Hassle. The Price You Pay For All Products = The Dealership's Posted or Advertised Price.

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by Grimlock

All Pure Pricing means is that if they advertise a price, then that what anybody that wants the car will pay. No haggling or mark up from there. If they want to add a mark up, they will.


Source: http://secure.scion.com/faq/#faq=faq-pure-price

A quick google search of your local Scion dealers will show you which one to go see. The one that has a high advertised price is the one you avoid. I guarantee you will be able to find a dealer that sells for MSRP.

The whole "if you pre-order, they will raise the price" thing is a fallacy as well. Using that logic, I could say that if people are posting on a website about a car that isn't even out yet, you are showing interest, so Scion and Subaru will raise the price. Truth is that 90% of the population will find out about this car when they start seeing them on the street. Some people on nasioc, supposed car enthusiasts, are still asking if this car is AWD, FFS!

[Scottyscooter]

It seems really odd to me that people are actually putting down a deposit and pre-ordering a car they have not driven, and don't even know what the purchase price is going to be.

I know that the reviews have been positive and I'm optimistic that I'm probably going to get one of these cars, but I'm still going to try everything else that is currently available. After you test drive a FRS/BRZ, you should hop around to the other dealers to try a Mazda MX-5 retractable hard top, RX8, the Hyundai Genesis Coupe's with the new engines, a WRX, ect. Your selling yourself short if you don't try the other cars that you can buy with your money.

[Kuzuri]

Originally Posted by Scottyscooter

It seems really odd to me that people are actually putting down a deposit and pre-ordering a car they have not driven, and don't even know what the purchase price is going to be.

I know that the reviews have been positive and I'm optimistic that I'm probably going to get one of these cars, but I'm still going to try everything else that is currently available. After you test drive a FRS/BRZ, you should hop around to the other dealers to try a Mazda MX-5 retractable hard top, RX8, the Hyundai Genesis Coupe's with the new engines, a WRX, ect. Your selling yourself short if you don't try the other cars that you can buy with your money.

I am going to be dropping a deposit on one in a few weeks after I look at it at the chicago auto show this weekend if al is good.

The way i was told from the dealer was that you put $500 down as a deposit. when the car comes in you go to the dealer look it over test drive it, and if you want it you buy it. if you dont, you get your $500 back. so it seems silly NOT to do it IMO anyway...

[Dillano609]

Originally Posted by Scottyscooter

It seems really odd to me that people are actually putting down a deposit and pre-ordering a car they have not driven, and don't even know what the purchase price is going to be.

I know that the reviews have been positive and I'm optimistic that I'm probably going to get one of these cars, but I'm still going to try everything else that is currently available. After you test drive a FRS/BRZ, you should hop around to the other dealers to try a Mazda MX-5 retractable hard top, RX8, the Hyundai Genesis Coupe's with the new engines, a WRX, ect. Your selling yourself short if you don't try the other cars that you can buy with your money.

The pre-order/deposit is fully refundable if I don't want the car so I'm not 100% committed to buying it.

I'd be selling myself short if I didn't get a car I absolutely love. The MX-5 seems like the stereotypical female driver car and I don't really want a convertible. The RX-8 has a gas guzzling rotary engine that isn't good after 100,000 miles not to mention the ugly styling as of late. As for the Genesis Coupe, it's way too big, the car is too ugly after the facelift, and Hyundai to me doesn't strike me as a reliable brand after my moms 2009 Santa FE recently broke down which is more times than my used 97 Maxima has broken down.

The FR-S on the other hand has beautiful styling, small dimenstions, and promises to be affordable. This car, by the looks of it, has what I want. Granted, I could look for otner cars, but the only ones available in my budget would be used cars that I'd like and I don't want another used car.

[Re_Invention]

Originally Posted by Scottyscooter

It seems really odd to me that people are actually putting down a deposit and pre-ordering a car they have not driven, and don't even know what the purchase price is going to be.

I know that the reviews have been positive and I'm optimistic that I'm probably going to get one of these cars, but I'm still going to try everything else that is currently available. After you test drive a FRS/BRZ, you should hop around to the other dealers to try a Mazda MX-5 retractable hard top, RX8, the Hyundai Genesis Coupe's with the new engines, a WRX, ect. Your selling yourself short if you don't try the other cars that you can buy with your money.

It isn't odd one bit, this happens all the time with cars. Look at Ferrari, their entry level car's production run will be bespoke for years without any data. Any car that generates buzz will be pre-ordered. And why not pre-order? There is no contractual obligation from the individual to follow thru with the purchase and they get their refundable deposit back (or in many cases, it's a check that's never cashed and voided/terminated at the end). Actually, this car is relatively under the radar, in my opinion, it isn't getting the public marketing (might change today?) that cars like the 350Z, WRX/STI, Mustang/Cobra, etc. got.

The Miata and WRX are in a different categories, the RX8 isn't being produced anymore but the Hyundai GC is worth taking a look at. It's a nice package - it just felt a little off, for me, plus a very hard interior - would drive me nuts.

[ahausheer]

I don't get these pre-orders, you guys don't even know how much it will cost.

[Kuzuri]

Originally Posted by ahausheer

I don't get these pre-orders, you guys don't even know how much it will cost.

if the cost is too much you can back out and get your deposit back

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by Scottyscooter

It seems really odd to me that people are actually putting down a deposit and pre-ordering a car they have not driven, and don't even know what the purchase price is going to be.

Everybody wants to have the first one. They're just putting their name on a waiting list so they'll get first-dibs to place an order when the cars are visible to dealers' order systems. Yes it's strange. It's putting down a deposit not on a product but on a chance to order a product. That distant sound you hear is the buzz.

Originally Posted by Re_Invention

It isn't odd one bit, this happens all the time with cars. Look at Ferrari, their entry level car's production run will be bespoke for years without any data.

This is no Ferrari. Those guys buy the car no-matter-what and sell them for a profit a year later.

So far my dealership has not talked about money. Probably because they can't take my order yet and don't want to give me the wrong expectation. We will cross that bridge when it comes.