Why not an Impreza or a WRX? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

slizoth · 02-03-2012, 07:47 PM

I think we're all here because we're fans of the car but when you compare the three Subaru cars... Impreza, WRX, and BRZ, what draws you to the BRZ over the other two? Price? Rear Wheel drive > AWD? Celica throw back style 2 door?

What if the BRZ was more expensive than the WRX, why would you take the BRZ over the WRX?

acetothermus · 02-03-2012, 07:51 PM

I've read a few reports here and there that this drives like the old RWD celica's. I had an 84 that I sold 4 years ago and I miss it terribly. So I want that feeling back. I don't want a sedan, I want a proper 2 door coupe. Sure more HP would be nice, but I don't think it's going to matter a whole lot for the kind of driving I'm going to be doing with this. I'll be driving on twisty mountain roads with hair pins and tight outside turns. So this car should be quick well on roads like that.

KevinDuMa · 02-03-2012, 07:54 PM

Lightweight, RWD, I like coupes, I'm a short asian guy so I need a small car to make me look proportional lol...and affordable(hopefully).

matadormi5 · 02-03-2012, 08:05 PM

I really like the idea of a cheap, well engineered, fun coupe that's a riot to drive.

I'm not the type of guy who'd buy a V6 camaro or mustang. Forget about the mainstream beige things like the 2dr Civics or the Scion TC.

lastly, I have no need for a sedan or anything bigger really. Not yet anyway.

BattleArmor · 02-03-2012, 08:35 PM

Insurance on a WRX, and the gas mileage are my reasons for turning away...cost of ownership is higher then I'd want. The Rex was actually my original plan until I took everything into account.

BioRage · 02-03-2012, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BattleArmor

Insurance on a WRX, and the gas mileage are my reasons for turning away...cost of ownership is higher then I'd want. The Rex was actually my original plan until I took everything into account.

What makes you think insurance is cheaper on a sports 2dr car?

Devie · 02-03-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KittenMittens

Heh, "the Rex" - I've always called it "the Works" as in WORX, and as in... http://idioms.yourdictionary.com/the-works

BRZ on the other hand, I just don't know. "Burz" just sounds weird.

I like the name of the BRZ. Its probably because being Australian (and follow English more closely to our English providers) I say "Be Ar Zed"
Be Ar Zee doesn't sound anywhere near as good.

armythug · 02-03-2012, 09:09 PM

I love my wrx now but it's like 13 year old. I'm either going to wait for the new non impreza WRX or get the BRZ depending on the price in Australia. Win either way.

Sabastian · 02-03-2012, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slizoth

I think we're all here because we're fans of the car but when you compare the three Subaru cars... Impreza, WRX, and BRZ, what draws you to the BRZ over the other two? Price? Rear Wheel drive > AWD? Celica throw back style 2 door?

What if the BRZ was more expensive than the WRX, why would you take the BRZ over the WRX?

I think comparing the BRZ to an Impreza is a lot like comparing a Mazda3 to a Miata. Some of the performance numbers may look similar on paper, and in the case of the MazdaSpeed3, some numbers (power, acceleration) may even eclipse those of the Miata. The differences, however, lie in the subjective sensations that are experienced by the driver. I can say from experience that the MS3 is a really fun car to drive, but the Miata soundly defeats it in terms of overall driver involvement. Being a Miata owner, I might be a little biased, but there's just something about the character of a simple, light sports car that cannot be communicated via a spec-sheet nor can it be replicated in a car that is the size of an Impreza or Mazda3. The WRX is a fantastically competent car in just about any situation, but the one thing it does not do is talk to the driver in the way that a small sportscar does. I realize that this sounds pretty hippy-dippy, but go drive a Mazda3 and a Miata back to back, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Hope that answered your question.

KaliKev · 02-03-2012, 09:46 PM

More economical (daily driver) while still being quick and fun to drive.

Spaceywilly · 02-03-2012, 09:49 PM

Been there, done that. Time for something different. I love awd for the snow and gravel but it is really just boring and understeery on pavement.

I'm planning on keeping my WRX, though, so I guess my answer to the OP's question is, why not both?

Khyron686 · 02-03-2012, 09:58 PM

That help? An Evo is like 3500 lbs, this is 2800ish. Get whatever car you have now and add 3 more full grown men and see how your ride changes.

I loved my 85 supra, and this is basically that car again, with 2012 safety and 40 more hp.

blacknbean · 02-03-2012, 10:00 PM

lightweight,rwd,NA, and from the reviews the handling is on point

carbonBLUE · 02-03-2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioRage

What makes you think insurance is cheaper on a sports 2dr car?

my insurance dropped going from my corolla to a celica... lol

if that counts

02-03-2012, 07:47 PM	#1
slizoth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ Location: Oregon Posts: 454 Thanks: 185 Thanked 70 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why not an Impreza or a WRX? I think we're all here because we're fans of the car but when you compare the three Subaru cars... Impreza, WRX, and BRZ, what draws you to the BRZ over the other two? Price? Rear Wheel drive > AWD? Celica throw back style 2 door? What if the BRZ was more expensive than the WRX, why would you take the BRZ over the WRX?

02-03-2012, 09:09 PM	#8
armythug Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Pegasus White 86GTS Location: Perth WA Posts: 608 Thanks: 371 Thanked 108 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I love my wrx now but it's like 13 year old. I'm either going to wait for the new non impreza WRX or get the BRZ depending on the price in Australia. Win either way. __________________ Pegasus White 6MT got it. :happy0180:

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Spaceywilly ZC6A2B82KC7J Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2002 WRX Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 361 Thanked 727 Times in 236 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Been there, done that. Time for something different. I love awd for the snow and gravel but it is really just boring and understeery on pavement. I'm planning on keeping my WRX, though, so I guess my answer to the OP's question is, why not both? __________________ Straights are for fast cars. Turns are for fast drivers. Last edited by Spaceywilly; 02-03-2012 at 10:09 PM.

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acetothermus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Flying in a Blue Dream Location: California Posts: 224 Thanks: 205 Thanked 123 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I've read a few reports here and there that this drives like the old RWD celica's. I had an 84 that I sold 4 years ago and I miss it terribly. So I want that feeling back. I don't want a sedan, I want a proper 2 door coupe. Sure more HP would be nice, but I don't think it's going to matter a whole lot for the kind of driving I'm going to be doing with this. I'll be driving on twisty mountain roads with hair pins and tight outside turns. So this car should be quick well on roads like that.

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KevinDuMa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 2004 Honda S2000 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 610 Thanks: 46 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lightweight, RWD, I like coupes, I'm a short asian guy so I need a small car to make me look proportional lol...and affordable(hopefully).

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matadormi5 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: GTI MK5 Location: Chicago Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really like the idea of a cheap, well engineered, fun coupe that's a riot to drive. I'm not the type of guy who'd buy a V6 camaro or mustang. Forget about the mainstream beige things like the 2dr Civics or the Scion TC. lastly, I have no need for a sedan or anything bigger really. Not yet anyway.

02-03-2012, 08:35 PM	#5
BattleArmor CarGuy Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Honda Accord Coupe 5mt Location: South Florida Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Insurance on a WRX, and the gas mileage are my reasons for turning away...cost of ownership is higher then I'd want. The Rex was actually my original plan until I took everything into account.

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KaliKev FT86 News Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: Toyota FJ Location: United States Posts: 386 Thanks: 3 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	More economical (daily driver) while still being quick and fun to drive.

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Khyron686 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2011 Outlander XLS, 2013 FR-S Blue Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 634 Thanks: 129 Thanked 168 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That help? An Evo is like 3500 lbs, this is 2800ish. Get whatever car you have now and add 3 more full grown men and see how your ride changes. I loved my 85 supra, and this is basically that car again, with 2012 safety and 40 more hp.

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blacknbean Butterscotch Boss Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: 335i Location: SF Posts: 71 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lightweight,rwd,NA, and from the reviews the handling is on point

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