Why is Toyota doing this? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

4agze · 01-19-2010, 02:37 AM

Just saw this Lexus IS-F Circuit Club Sport Concept, I get it Lexus wants to make the G or F to be like the M of BMW. But can they not copy what BMW is doing even the color look at it its a ripoff on the BMW M3 GTS even the color, come on Toyota your not chines, you got high paying engineers that can make a different identity for the IS-F, Toyota needs to stop this BS.

Lexus IS-F Circuit Club Sport Concept

BMW M3 GTS concept

NESW20 · 01-19-2010, 01:59 PM

specs on both of those cars? i think i'd actually like them more if each were white.

-Mike

Midship Runabout · 01-19-2010, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20

i think i'd actually like them more if each were white.

x2

4agze · 01-19-2010, 05:33 PM

well the Lexus IS-F Circuit Club Sport Concept no official specs yet but I'm sure its just lighter w/ better ecu for better response and a stiffer suspension.

but the M3 GTS
here
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/04/bmw-m3-gts-unveiled/

SLeRoux92 · 01-20-2010, 12:43 AM

the lexus pulls off the color better imo

bundyae85 · 01-20-2010, 05:43 PM

prefer the lexus, as i hate bmw's but all car company's are fighting for similar markets nowadays and they're all doing the same thing and looking the same, making for a boring car market at the moment

whaap · 01-22-2010, 01:42 PM

Toyota does a good job of copying. Notice the profile of the FT 86 versus the Z car. Both are very similar. I always liked the looks of the Z but also felt it was too bulbous. That's why I prefer the thinned down FT.

Siriusly.Andrew · 01-22-2010, 02:18 PM

I don't think the FT-86 looks like any other production car.
I don't see Nissan anywhere on the current concept, and I definitely do not see a bloated Z car in it.
Maybe to remind you, this car is very similar in size to the Honda S2000. And its new unique look will make it sell.

As for the Lexus - BMW thing... White would look better on both. /agreed

4agze · 01-22-2010, 06:26 PM

I don't see a Nissan 370Z resemblance

whaap · 01-22-2010, 11:47 PM

Look at a side view of the two. Don't misunderstand me, I am not criticizing Toyota. They are perhaps my favorite brand and I love the fact it's only 1" different than the S2000. I'm also saying I always admired the Z but felt it was too bulbous (bloated if you will) and to me the FT 86 is much more to my liking.

Siriusly.Andrew · 01-23-2010, 12:00 PM

I see a similar profile, but you get the same thing when you look at the Altima Coupe & Honda Accord Coupe & Toyota Solara Coupe. probably more cars can be added to this list, but non of those cars look at all alike, but have the same profile from a side view... just like 100's of cars on the road.
Besides a "general" shape, nothing matches.

01-19-2010, 01:59 PM	#2
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	specs on both of those cars? i think i'd actually like them more if each were white. -Mike __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

01-20-2010, 05:43 PM	#6
bundyae85 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: ae86 trueno Location: ireland Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	prefer the lexus, as i hate bmw's but all car company's are fighting for similar markets nowadays and they're all doing the same thing and looking the same, making for a boring car market at the moment __________________

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SLeRoux92 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: 2005 Nissan Xterra Location: Largo, FL Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the lexus pulls off the color better imo

01-22-2010, 01:42 PM	#7
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota does a good job of copying. Notice the profile of the FT 86 versus the Z car. Both are very similar. I always liked the looks of the Z but also felt it was too bulbous. That's why I prefer the thinned down FT.

01-22-2010, 02:18 PM	#8
Siriusly.Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 1995 Civic DX Location: Fort St. John BC CAN Posts: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think the FT-86 looks like any other production car. I don't see Nissan anywhere on the current concept, and I definitely do not see a bloated Z car in it. Maybe to remind you, this car is very similar in size to the Honda S2000. And its new unique look will make it sell. As for the Lexus - BMW thing... White would look better on both. /agreed

01-22-2010, 11:47 PM	#10
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Look at a side view of the two. Don't misunderstand me, I am not criticizing Toyota. They are perhaps my favorite brand and I love the fact it's only 1" different than the S2000. I'm also saying I always admired the Z but felt it was too bulbous (bloated if you will) and to me the FT 86 is much more to my liking.

01-23-2010, 12:00 PM	#11
Siriusly.Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 1995 Civic DX Location: Fort St. John BC CAN Posts: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I see a similar profile, but you get the same thing when you look at the Altima Coupe & Honda Accord Coupe & Toyota Solara Coupe. probably more cars can be added to this list, but non of those cars look at all alike, but have the same profile from a side view... just like 100's of cars on the road. Besides a "general" shape, nothing matches.

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