What engine to swap...?? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

usptwins · 03-02-2013, 08:46 PM

Ok, well i know most of yall don't think that an engine swap is right for anything, but be known that its the better way to get more power reliably.. Now i know that at least the 2JZ has been done several times already and it IS possible, but how people are all worried about the handling and dynamics of the car with such a large motor and all. I was thinking that the 3S engine series was probably doable... Either the 3S-GE (207bhp), or 3S-GTE (255bhp). Any idea's?? Thoughts??

I was thinking of a few engines to possibly swap after the warranty is gone in the FR-S.
1). 2JZ-GTTE
2). 1JZ-GTTE
3). 3S-G(T)E

Beyer Subaru · 03-02-2013, 08:54 PM

3S, 4A, 2J, F20, SR20, EJ20/25, LSx, 4G63, VQx, etc.. If your gonna do it, I'd do it like a bouws.

usptwins · 03-02-2013, 09:02 PM

These engines i know how to work on easily and can find good deals on parts and i know they are reliable with big power

ZDan · 03-02-2013, 09:16 PM

4AGE

Trashed675 · 03-02-2013, 09:23 PM

This is going to just sound wrong to some of you, but i'm sure you could probably squeeze an LS1/3/6 in without too much of an issue.

usptwins · 03-02-2013, 09:37 PM

Question was about the engines i posted... I want a Toyota motor in this Toyota car. Either of these engines... Sorry, but i don't like the old chevy motors... out of date style.

ZDan · 03-02-2013, 09:44 PM

Choices seem absurd to me. 3S-GE? Why not just throw an anchor under the hood with the stock engine? 1JZ and 2JZ, you wanna put an engine that's 6 cylinders long and upright in a space designed for an engine that's basically only 2.5 cylinders long and flat?

Good luck!

LS makes a ton more sense.

Shadowsong6 · 03-02-2013, 10:37 PM

If you're dead set on a Toyota engine why not try and get a 3gr-fse?

turbo_jimbo · 03-02-2013, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usptwins

Ok, well i know most of yall don't think that an engine swap is right for anything, but be known that its the better way to get more power reliably.. Now i know that at least the 2JZ has been done several times already and it IS possible, but how people are all worried about the handling and dynamics of the car with such a large motor and all. I was thinking that the 3S engine series was probably doable... Either the 3S-GE (207bhp), or 3S-GTE (255bhp). Any idea's?? Thoughts??

I was thinking of a few engines to possibly swap after the warranty is gone in the FR-S.
1). 2JZ-GTTE
2). 1JZ-GTTE
3). 3S-G(T)E

Toyota, not Nissan. Only one t in the engine code regardless of number of turbos.

That said, tundra 5.7 ftw

usptwins · 03-02-2013, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowsong6

If you're dead set on a Toyota engine why not try and get a 3gr-fse?

Too expensive to start off, and no aftermarket... Same for the 3ur, its the same prob....

Shadowsong6 · 03-02-2013, 11:13 PM

Honestly, it sounds like an LS motor is what you're looking for.. Cheap, kickass aftermarket, still retains some fuel economy and good balance... Check out the BRZ06 thread in the brz general.. I don't see why a lot of people on these boards have such a dislike for the LS motors, who cares if it's a Chevy? Lol

dem00n · 03-02-2013, 11:31 PM

LS.

You can get the damn parts at an autozone....

usptwins · 03-03-2013, 01:41 AM

^and thats another reason why i don't like em... I hate autozone shit, that no lasting piece of shit garbage they sell... Its worthless... shit breaks too easy... JZ is the way im going.

husker741 · 03-03-2013, 01:50 AM

3UZ

03-02-2013, 08:46 PM	#1
usptwins Toyota Soul Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 96 taco Location: Louisiana Posts: 528 Thanks: 725 Thanked 99 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What engine to swap...?? Ok, well i know most of yall don't think that an engine swap is right for anything, but be known that its the better way to get more power reliably.. Now i know that at least the 2JZ has been done several times already and it IS possible, but how people are all worried about the handling and dynamics of the car with such a large motor and all. I was thinking that the 3S engine series was probably doable... Either the 3S-GE (207bhp), or 3S-GTE (255bhp). Any idea's?? Thoughts?? I was thinking of a few engines to possibly swap after the warranty is gone in the FR-S. 1). 2JZ-GTTE 2). 1JZ-GTTE 3). 3S-G(T)E __________________ No replacement for Displacement??? Tell that to the people with a 2JZ.

03-02-2013, 09:02 PM	#3
usptwins Toyota Soul Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 96 taco Location: Louisiana Posts: 528 Thanks: 725 Thanked 99 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	These engines i know how to work on easily and can find good deals on parts and i know they are reliable with big power __________________ No replacement for Displacement??? Tell that to the people with a 2JZ.

03-02-2013, 09:37 PM	#6
usptwins Toyota Soul Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 96 taco Location: Louisiana Posts: 528 Thanks: 725 Thanked 99 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Question was about the engines i posted... I want a Toyota motor in this Toyota car. Either of these engines... Sorry, but i don't like the old chevy motors... out of date style. __________________ No replacement for Displacement??? Tell that to the people with a 2JZ.

03-02-2013, 09:44 PM	#7
ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,671 Thanks: 1,437 Thanked 4,011 Times in 2,097 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Choices seem absurd to me. 3S-GE? Why not just throw an anchor under the hood with the stock engine? 1JZ and 2JZ, you wanna put an engine that's 6 cylinders long and upright in a space designed for an engine that's basically only 2.5 cylinders long and flat? Good luck! LS makes a ton more sense. Last edited by ZDan; 03-02-2013 at 09:55 PM.

03-03-2013, 01:41 AM	#13
usptwins Toyota Soul Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 96 taco Location: Louisiana Posts: 528 Thanks: 725 Thanked 99 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^and thats another reason why i don't like em... I hate autozone shit, that no lasting piece of shit garbage they sell... Its worthless... shit breaks too easy... JZ is the way im going. __________________ No replacement for Displacement??? Tell that to the people with a 2JZ.

03-02-2013, 08:54 PM	#2
Beyer Subaru Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ SWP 6AT Ltd Location: Alexandria, VA. Posts: 1,607 Thanks: 859 Thanked 776 Times in 485 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	3S, 4A, 2J, F20, SR20, EJ20/25, LSx, 4G63, VQx, etc.. If your gonna do it, I'd do it like a bouws.

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ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,671 Thanks: 1,437 Thanked 4,011 Times in 2,097 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	4AGE

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Shadowsong6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2014 Ford Mustang Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 134 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you're dead set on a Toyota engine why not try and get a 3gr-fse?

03-02-2013, 11:13 PM	#11
Shadowsong6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2014 Ford Mustang Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 134 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Honestly, it sounds like an LS motor is what you're looking for.. Cheap, kickass aftermarket, still retains some fuel economy and good balance... Check out the BRZ06 thread in the brz general.. I don't see why a lot of people on these boards have such a dislike for the LS motors, who cares if it's a Chevy? Lol

03-02-2013, 11:31 PM	#12
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	LS. You can get the damn parts at an autozone....

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