Oil smells like fuel

[SloS13]

FR-S manual with 5500miles

Oil smells like fuel. Anyone else?

[roflcopter]

I changed mine at 1500 and it smelled strongly of petrol. I don't think I warmed it up like you're supposed to though, if I drove it for 15 minutes I'm sure the PCV or whatever this car has would have taken care of it.

[SloS13]

Brought it to the dealer. Initially two service employees agreed the oil smelled strong of fuel. After they check it out, the mechanic had me smell a jug of new oil compared to my dipstick. My dipstick smelled like gas, jug of new oil didn't but he claimed he couldn't smell gas. I'm going to send some off to get tested.

[Subie]

How do you have that many miles when you bought your car last Sunday? I'm assuming you bought it used?

[zooki]

Was the car fully warmed up? From what I understand, cars with direct injection have a little more oil contamination when the car is cold, due to spraying fuel directly into the cylinders. Once the oil gets up to operating temperature the lighter volatiles like gasoline will flash off and go through the PCV system. At least hats the way I understood it.

[shu5892001]

Its pretty normal, try to smell some other car's dip stick. I sniffed all of my family's cars and all smiled like gas

[Captain Insano]

Agreed. I thought this very common.

[SloS13]

Originally Posted by Subie

How do you have that many miles when you bought your car last Sunday? I'm assuming you bought it used?

Yup bought it with 5k

Originally Posted by zooki

Was the car fully warmed up? From what I understand, cars with direct injection have a little more oil contamination when the car is cold, due to spraying fuel directly into the cylinders. Once the oil gets up to operating temperature the lighter volatiles like gasoline will flash off and go through the PCV system. At least hats the way I understood it.

Checked when warm. I guess I can buy that. Still getting the oil tested for peace of mind though.

Originally Posted by shu5892001

Its pretty normal, try to smell some other car's dip stick. I sniffed all of my family's cars and all smiled like gas

I've changed my own oil for the past 20 years, never smelled oil that strong of gas unless I was running a crazy-rich tune.

Thanks for the replies

[Huehuecoyotl]

fuel dilution of oil normal till rings break in

[jeebus]

My first oil change had a tiny bit of fuel in the oil, but the next one didn't. Hope your rings are seated properly.

[fistpoint]

All this talk of sniffing dipsticks...and one guy sniffed his whole family's!

[Red John]

Originally Posted by jeebus

My first oil change had a tiny bit of fuel in the oil, but the next one didn't. Hope your rings are seated properly.

THIS ^^^

Improper break in procedure to blame?

I disagree with the owners manual recommended break in procedure, My opinion it leaves an important step undone.

Although I am new here, this isn't my first Rodeo.

I've built quite a few engines, mostly high horsepower with stock and aftermarket components.

I installed chromoly (hard) rings a few times before giving up on them after having repeated problems getting them to seat.

I am careful now to select rings that are cast iron composition, usually the top ring with a chrome surface.

When cylinder walls are new, they have a cross hatch texture that is produced by the final honing operation. The purpose of the final hone is to fine tune the cylinder size and to produce the cross hatch finish.
The function of the cross hatch finish (which disappears/wears away as the engine breaks in) is to abrade the edges of the top and second rings, this is what is referred to as "seating" these rings.

When a new engine with solid base (not roller cam) lifters is started, it must be run for a period of time (about 20 minutes at 2000 rpm) to break in the cam and lifters.
With roller cam setups and roller cam followers this step is not required, but a new engine must be run for a few minutes to run the builder/factory quality control procedures.
Nonetheless, Neither one of these break in procedures is performed with the engine under load.

The break in procedure for piston rings in a new engine is as follows. Take the vehicle on a section of straight road and perform a strong acceleration in a lower gear, 2nd is usually good, lots of torque usually available. At the top of your strong acceleration, allow engine braking to slow the vehicle down to where you would shift to a lower gear. Do this 2-4 times and then proceed with the gentle factory break in procedure. I would say that RPMs at the top end of your strong acceleration runs should reach 5000 on the Tach in this 7450 Redline engine. It won't hurt your engine one bit, Rather it will take advantage of the cross hatch finish's intended function while it is still new and not worn away yet.

ask me about new ring and pinion break in.

[XPR Small Block]

remember guys every motor has blow by, this takes place on the compression stroke of the motor as the fuel/air compresses and fuel ignites. A little bit of that pressure gets past the piston rings causing that smell it will get way more potent if you fry your rings. your safe I would say

[Touge Monster]

@Red John knows what he's talking about. My pops was an old school v8 guy and I spent quite a bit of time growing up wrenching and helping him build and machine engines. Most modern import engines and engines in general now have much tighter tolerances than the afformentioned v8s that being said I have seen some newer engines 2afze for example have ring sealing issues causing uneven cylinder wall wear/gouging so it is possible that is could be a ring seating issue. A bit of fuel smell is normal and I have also heard that di tends to dirty the oil a bit quicker but I can't speak from knowledge/experience on that one.

Question for the op is the engine using any oil? I would try driving it a bit and make sure the oil consumption is within spec before you start to panic.

-Mike