follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
86WORX
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > FT86CLUB Shared Forum > FR-S / BRZ vs....

FR-S / BRZ vs.... Area to discuss the FR-S/BRZ against its competitors [NO STREET RACING]


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-07-2012, 10:18 PM   #1
PMok
Codename: Stitch
 
PMok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 91 MR2; 06 IS350; 16 BRZ; 18 CX-5
Location: Hayward/NorCal
Posts: 5,248
Thanks: 4,021
Thanked 5,436 Times in 2,307 Posts
Mentioned: 462 Post(s)
Tagged: 6 Thread(s)
briefly battled a McLaren MP4-12C... briefly

this is not a racing story... more of a "two gentleman drivers who happened upon a road together" story.

Met up with a friend today and was headed home afterwards... didn't have anything to do so I decided to take the long way home... the twisty way. This is a short backroad that is not too much of a major thoroughfare so when you are lucky, you can get this road all to yourself. I love this road and have driven it many times. I will not say the name of the road, to protect the identity of the innocent and the secrecy of the road So I turn on to this road and ... what's that behind me? A pair of bright headlights, HIDs... within a few seconds I realize it's a McLaren. Oh snap! It's like the epic Motor Trend Best Drivers' Car comparo, only with me cast as the pudgy bespectacled Jonny Lieberman. And probably Randy Pobst behind the wheel of the McLaren.

My BRZ is totally stock motor and suspension. I already know how this is going to end, but I know in my heart I have to give it a go. So I floor it and we charge into the canyon together, engines roaring. His a lot louder than mine of course. We go into the first few turns hot -- for me it's flat out. When I have time to glance in the rearview he is right there with me. I maintain a ferocious pace, this might have been the fastest I've ever taken these corners. It's a tight snaking road, and you get to the point where you start slowing down not because you don't have mechanical grip, you slow down because there are blind corners and you don't know what might be around the next corner. I think in a few of these corners, I "outbraved" the McLaren because I carried more speed through the turns and he slowed down, so I could see that he dropped back. Perhaps he wasn't as familiar with the roads, or perhaps he wanted to give me some space. But a few turns later he was back on my tail.

We carried on this way for maybe a quarter mile, maybe half mile. Hard to say for sure. Then we came upon slower traffic -- a VW Jetta doing it's own normal thing. We slowed down and formed up behind it. And I thought, with some relief, here is my honorable way out. After perhaps another half mile of following it, a small turnout came up. The Jetta didn't take it. I nudged my BRZ to the right to give the McLaren enough room to pass and slowed. He came around and now we were VW - McLaren - BRZ. Now closely following the McLaren, I rolled down my window and waited for what I knew would come. The next patch of road that was semi straight, that V8 roared and off went the McLaren, passing around the VW in a matter of seconds. I wasn't going to try the same thing, I knew how short these straights were and I just didn't have the power to pass if the VW didn't cooperate. And a good thing too as we passed oncoming traffic a few turns later. So I followed meekly behind it for a while longer, when it finally pulled out to let me pass and I picked up my pace once more, the McLaren was nowhere to be seen. I eventually caught up to another car, an Acura TL, and passed that one on one of the longer straights but before long I reached the end of this fairly short route. Did not see the McLaren again.

So that's my story. I don't know what was going through the head of the McLaren driver, whether he thought "oh good show, this BRZ's got heart", or it was "what is this ricey rubbish, make way, peasant!". I just know that we had a rip roaring good time and it was a memorable highlight to my day.

I had a big grin on my face as I drove the rest of the way home, and it just got even bigger when I got a call from the local Subaru dealership, asking if I was interested in buying a WRB BRZ they had available, and my response was "actually, I'm driving one right now. But thank you for calling."
__________________
PMok is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 17 Users Say Thank You to PMok For This Useful Post:
6-Shift (12-09-2012), akahenry (12-29-2013), armythug (12-08-2012), brianlo622 (12-11-2012), calis5nest (12-08-2012), dun3 (12-08-2012), Guff (12-08-2012), kwood9000 (12-08-2012), Moshpit37 (12-08-2012), Panda Grahams (12-08-2012), ShoNUFF (01-06-2013), Subaruwrxfan (12-08-2012), Superhatch (12-08-2012), Texas BRZ (12-08-2012), Turbowned (12-11-2012), vang (12-08-2012), whaap (12-08-2012)
Old 12-07-2012, 10:27 PM   #2
DBacon1052
Senior Member
 
DBacon1052's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: Argento FR-S
Location: SoCal: Aliso Viejo
Posts: 569
Thanks: 178
Thanked 156 Times in 94 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Or he was thinking, "I don't want to be in the next Mclaren FR-S crash"

Anyways stay safe and thanks for the good read.
DBacon1052 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to DBacon1052 For This Useful Post:
calis5nest (12-08-2012), dori. (12-09-2012), nix (12-08-2012), OrbitalEllipses (12-07-2012), PMok (12-07-2012), Subie (12-07-2012), Tigranakert (12-08-2012)
Old 12-07-2012, 10:52 PM   #3
mashal
DADA
 
mashal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 2013
Location: Kanada
Posts: 1,500
Thanks: 47
Thanked 388 Times in 249 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBacon1052 View Post
Or he was thinking, "I don't want to be in the next Mclaren FR-S crash"

Anyways stay safe and thanks for the good read.
Word


I-Tapatalk
mashal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 12:34 AM   #4
Splat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: FR-S ultramarine
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 377
Thanks: 163
Thanked 73 Times in 53 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Sounds like fun, regardless if he was talking his time, with the confidence it will be over soon enough. You never saw him again, well that was his plan the whole time.
Splat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Splat For This Useful Post:
dun3 (12-08-2012)
Old 12-08-2012, 01:06 AM   #5
Razz
Senior Member
 
Razz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Fast
Location: United States
Posts: 480
Thanks: 64
Thanked 101 Times in 71 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
S,o a Mc Laren was behind you for a 1/4 mile....
Razz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 06:14 AM   #6
Texas BRZ
Sports Car = Anti-Drug
 
Texas BRZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2014 Honda CBR600RR
Location: Plano
Posts: 917
Thanks: 371
Thanked 307 Times in 193 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
I personally would've given him an earlier passing signal upon the very next straight...
__________________
"Did you know that this car comes with 300 horsepower in its stock form? 200 from the engine, 50 in its chassis, and the final 50 within the driver who can make the most of it."

Texas BRZ
Texas BRZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 03:06 PM   #7
PMok
Codename: Stitch
 
PMok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 91 MR2; 06 IS350; 16 BRZ; 18 CX-5
Location: Hayward/NorCal
Posts: 5,248
Thanks: 4,021
Thanked 5,436 Times in 2,307 Posts
Mentioned: 462 Post(s)
Tagged: 6 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas FR-S View Post
I personally would've given him an earlier passing signal upon the very next straight...
I know that road pretty well... basically in the first mile or so there are no safe passing points. So my only choices were to 1) hold him up or 2) hold him up LESS.


then I turned out at the first available spot.
__________________
PMok is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to PMok For This Useful Post:
calis5nest (12-08-2012)
Old 12-08-2012, 04:20 PM   #8
dun3
Senior Member
 
dun3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: 2013 Ultra Marine Blue FR-S
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 558
Thanks: 232
Thanked 157 Times in 118 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
cool story bro! I bet you had adrenaline like a muthaf** lol. Sounds so fun
dun3 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to dun3 For This Useful Post:
PMok (12-08-2012)
Old 12-08-2012, 05:58 PM   #9
Texas BRZ
Sports Car = Anti-Drug
 
Texas BRZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2014 Honda CBR600RR
Location: Plano
Posts: 917
Thanks: 371
Thanked 307 Times in 193 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PMok View Post
I know that road pretty well... basically in the first mile or so there are no safe passing points. So my only choices were to 1) hold him up or 2) hold him up LESS.


then I turned out at the first available spot.
Just messing around with you... I was jokingly treating the moment like in a DE event at the track, lol.
__________________
"Did you know that this car comes with 300 horsepower in its stock form? 200 from the engine, 50 in its chassis, and the final 50 within the driver who can make the most of it."

Texas BRZ
Texas BRZ is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Texas BRZ For This Useful Post:
PMok (12-08-2012)
Old 12-08-2012, 06:10 PM   #10
Supermassive
Senior Member
 
Supermassive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout
Location: Phoenix AZ
Posts: 1,406
Thanks: 116
Thanked 830 Times in 360 Posts
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by PMok View Post
So that's my story. I don't know what was going through the head of the McLaren driver, whether he thought "oh good show, this BRZ's got heart", or it was "what is this ricey rubbish, make way, peasant!".
I lol'd at the peasant remark
Supermassive is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Supermassive For This Useful Post:
PMok (12-08-2012), vang (12-08-2012)
Old 12-08-2012, 06:17 PM   #11
PMok
Codename: Stitch
 
PMok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 91 MR2; 06 IS350; 16 BRZ; 18 CX-5
Location: Hayward/NorCal
Posts: 5,248
Thanks: 4,021
Thanked 5,436 Times in 2,307 Posts
Mentioned: 462 Post(s)
Tagged: 6 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dun3 View Post
cool story bro! I bet you had adrenaline like a muthaf** lol. Sounds so fun
yeah it was quite a rush... the kind of feeling you only get when either an exotic supercar or a police car pulls up behind you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas FR-S View Post
Just messing around with you... I was jokingly treating the moment like in a DE event at the track, lol.
LOL yeah I've done a few HPDE events and on my first one the instructors gave me a 5/5 for courtesy... diligently pointed by all cars who wanted to pass since my car was so much slower on the straights.
__________________
PMok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:10 PM   #12
Texas BRZ
Sports Car = Anti-Drug
 
Texas BRZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2014 Honda CBR600RR
Location: Plano
Posts: 917
Thanks: 371
Thanked 307 Times in 193 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PMok View Post
LOL yeah I've done a few HPDE events and on my first one the instructors gave me a 5/5 for courtesy... diligently pointed by all cars who wanted to pass since my car was so much slower on the straights.
Hey, at least you did better than me when it comes to courtesy!

By the way, our car may be a bit slow on the straights, but it's not as slow as folks make it to be... Especially if you can manage to add to your momentum by keeping steady on the throttle ahead of time and building / planning (looking ahead) for a greater exit speed out of the corner leading to the long straight. In turn, this car can be surprisingly fast when approaching a straight and then onto it... Making it more possible to close the gap on higher-powered vehicles.
__________________
"Did you know that this car comes with 300 horsepower in its stock form? 200 from the engine, 50 in its chassis, and the final 50 within the driver who can make the most of it."

Texas BRZ
Texas BRZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 04:33 AM   #13
nix
Senior Member
 
nix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: AVO BRZ
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,161
Thanks: 997
Thanked 826 Times in 397 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
"Briefly held up a McLaren MP4-12C... briefly"

Still haven't seen on of those in the flesh yet! I am jelly.
__________________
nix is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to nix For This Useful Post:
PMok (12-09-2012)
Old 12-11-2012, 01:24 PM   #14
bdbx18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: Present MDX, Civic Hybrid, BRZ
Location: SoCal
Posts: 197
Thanks: 9
Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
In reality, with daily traffic, the difference in capabilities would not be that great since they are never reached. I regularly get trounced by lesser cars not because they are better drivers but because they are gutsier and willing to take risks I wouldn't. That's when that Metro can beat the Maserati.

Of course, it's a different story on a canyon road without traffic like this situation. Good story bro.
bdbx18 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bdbx18 For This Useful Post:
PMok (12-11-2012)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
World's Greatest Drag Race! BRZ amongst Lambo, MClaren, Nissan GT-R Bfly BRZ Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum 3 08-29-2012 02:51 AM
MotorTrend Blog: BRZ handling "better than Porsche, Godzilla and the McLaren" Kimsey47 BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 59 04-24-2012 12:44 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.