Soft and hard dial... No homo - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

_F-R-S_ · 12-01-2012, 08:44 PM

I just got bc coilovers on and lowered 1 and half inches. Just tryin to figure out how to use these hard soft dials effectily and at what point will a difference be noticed if i put on hard

Jesse · 12-01-2012, 08:48 PM

start closer to soft, and adjust from there until you have the stiffness/ride manner you like

gonbrz · 12-01-2012, 09:25 PM

when i had it on my SI i kept it in the middle and it was great.

i had it harder one time and with in 15 min on the interstate my back was killing me.

like @Jesse says you will have to play with the setting to find the best for you, i would recommend starting in the middle

_F-R-S_ · 12-01-2012, 09:49 PM

How do i know where its at right now

Dezoris · 12-01-2012, 10:05 PM

And thus the problems with coilovers. The only way to get the best setting is to first corner balance the car and then tune them at a track for consistent/fast lap times. For street its basically totally different, get the car corner balanced which may not work for the street anyway. Then spend a ton of time adjusting front vs rear stiffness. The general rule is front slightly stiffer rebound than rear. So near medium/soft for front and a soft in rear. Its guess work for street tuning. The firmer the rebound in rear the more oversteer.

_F-R-S_ · 12-01-2012, 10:17 PM

Ill mess around with it next weeekend. Unfortuanatly these are just my winter coilovers so no corner balance so it really just does t matter. Thanks for info

Jesse · 12-02-2012, 01:08 AM

to know, click them all the way soft ( - ), and adjust from there 3-5 clicks up to start

gonbrz · 12-02-2012, 01:35 AM

if i remember correctly there are a total of 30 clicks on my bc coilovers i had them at 15 clicks

sandman126 · 12-05-2012, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonbrz

if i remember correctly there are a total of 30 clicks on my bc coilovers i had them at 15 clicks

Yep, there are 30 clicks, turn them all the way soft (counter clockwise) then start counting clicks once you start stiffening them up. My 05 legacy gt i had em set 8 in front and 5 in the rear when i was DDing it, so smooth. Then when i would track it, i would turn it up to 20 front, 15 rear. Can't wait to order a set for my BRZ

_F-R-S_ · 12-05-2012, 04:12 AM

Great info thanks agaim

chutrain · 12-05-2012, 12:38 PM

I believe you are supposed to start with full firm and then back off from there. Not from the full soft setting.

sandman126 · 12-06-2012, 03:23 PM

Not on BC's, according to their instructions anyway. It says you're actually suppose to reset to full soft before you adjust them each time.

d1ck · 12-07-2012, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman126

Not on BC's, according to their instructions anyway. It says you're actually suppose to reset to full soft before you adjust them each time.

This is because of a phenomenon called hysteresis, and makes perfect sense. Also, soft or hard, it shouldn't matter.

12-01-2012, 08:44 PM	#1
_F-R-S_ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 whiteout scion frs Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,261 Thanks: 621 Thanked 202 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Soft and hard dial... No homo I just got bc coilovers on and lowered 1 and half inches. Just tryin to figure out how to use these hard soft dials effectily and at what point will a difference be noticed if i put on hard

12-01-2012, 08:48 PM	#2
Jesse wheel gap Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: whiteout frs, 04 xrs Location: MA Posts: 555 Thanks: 460 Thanked 249 Times in 153 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	start closer to soft, and adjust from there until you have the stiffness/ride manner you like __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20039 - journal --- http://www.flickr.com/photos/29438365@N04/

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Dezoris Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: IL Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 519 Thanked 2,998 Times in 1,095 Posts Mentioned: 159 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	And thus the problems with coilovers. The only way to get the best setting is to first corner balance the car and then tune them at a track for consistent/fast lap times. For street its basically totally different, get the car corner balanced which may not work for the street anyway. Then spend a ton of time adjusting front vs rear stiffness. The general rule is front slightly stiffer rebound than rear. So near medium/soft for front and a soft in rear. Its guess work for street tuning. The firmer the rebound in rear the more oversteer. __________________ SAVAGEGEESE

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Jesse wheel gap Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: whiteout frs, 04 xrs Location: MA Posts: 555 Thanks: 460 Thanked 249 Times in 153 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	to know, click them all the way soft ( - ), and adjust from there 3-5 clicks up to start __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20039 - journal --- http://www.flickr.com/photos/29438365@N04/

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gonbrz Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: World Rally Blue BRZ Location: Ft Lauderdale Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	when i had it on my SI i kept it in the middle and it was great. i had it harder one time and with in 15 min on the interstate my back was killing me. like @Jesse says you will have to play with the setting to find the best for you, i would recommend starting in the middle

12-01-2012, 09:49 PM	#4
_F-R-S_ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 whiteout scion frs Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,261 Thanks: 621 Thanked 202 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	How do i know where its at right now

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_F-R-S_ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 whiteout scion frs Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,261 Thanks: 621 Thanked 202 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Ill mess around with it next weeekend. Unfortuanatly these are just my winter coilovers so no corner balance so it really just does t matter. Thanks for info

12-02-2012, 01:35 AM	#8
gonbrz Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: World Rally Blue BRZ Location: Ft Lauderdale Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	if i remember correctly there are a total of 30 clicks on my bc coilovers i had them at 15 clicks

12-05-2012, 04:12 AM	#10
_F-R-S_ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 whiteout scion frs Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,261 Thanks: 621 Thanked 202 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Great info thanks agaim

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sandman126 Slide Ways Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ, 85 VW Golf Location: Minot, ND Posts: 93 Thanks: 163 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not on BC's, according to their instructions anyway. It says you're actually suppose to reset to full soft before you adjust them each time.

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