How's the drive using traffic? Manual tranny only - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

gunmetal5 · 10-22-2012, 10:40 PM

I was stuck in 2 hours of traffic on Friday in my 2010 Gti with a manual tranny. It a great car with an awesome manual transmission, the complete opposing my s2000. I made me think about how bad or good the frs/brz would handle in traffic....

ill86 · 10-22-2012, 10:43 PM

The same as any other manual in traffic..

gunmetal5 · 10-22-2012, 10:44 PM

Oh and please keep the flaming from people who bought the auto transmission to a minimum. You get better gas mileage and don't have to worry about traffic.
Let's leave it at to each their own. PLEASE!

wrxgoose · 10-22-2012, 10:57 PM

couple things: first off, while i don't have my 86 yet, i do have a 6 speed that i drive every day (delivery driver) so i have to deal with rush hour almost every day. manuals get better milage than auto, actually, because you can better control the rpms. if the twins are like my mini is, then it should be good in heavy traffic. just let the clutch out, let it roll onto it, nice and smooth, not using any throttle (though that depends on the road angle)

edit: i apologize if this seems rambling, been drinking, and will edit this post if i can't understand it when i sober up

Jive Turkey · 10-22-2012, 11:00 PM

the 6speed in the brz isn't a true 6 speed. fyi.

i came from a 2011 sti and driving that in traffic was just annoying. while the clutch wasn't heavy you have to compensate with more throttle on that car, further more that 6-speed in that car has such a huge rpm drop between 1st-2nd that in traffic crawling in 2nd is hard because it bogs.

i was stuck in NYC traffic in the brz, and i crawled in 2nd the entire time with no issues. the clutch is so light that my foot never really got tired.

its not bad compared to other cars that i've driven, especially non-stock clutch modifed cars.

FRiSson · 10-22-2012, 11:02 PM

Got to admit, that my Honda's had smoother easier manuals than the FR-S. However, I don't mind driving the manual in traffic. However, I hate driving in traffic period. Actually driving a manual makes it better, because it gives you something physical to do. I suppose if I had the auto, I would just fiddle with the paddles a lot.

sho220 · 10-22-2012, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

the 6speed in the brz isn't a true 6 speed. fyi.

What is it?

Jive Turkey · 10-22-2012, 11:07 PM

its a 5 speed box with a 6th overdrive gear essentially. its not a six speed like the STi has is what i'm saying. its the same trans that was in the newer gen LGT

Asphaltfrs1 · 10-22-2012, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sho220

What is it?

It's a false 6 speed lol

I didn't get that statement either

jmaryt · 10-22-2012, 11:18 PM

"overdrive" IS a gear! in 6-speed 5-speed,and 4-speed manual gear boxes,6th,5th,and 4th are overdrive gears respectfully,in ALL manual gear boxes! '"generally",5th,4th,and 3rd gears in respective gear boxes are "direct drive" gears 1 to 1, and ALL gears below those gears are "power" gears,or acceleration gears!

Jive Turkey · 10-22-2012, 11:21 PM

yes but coming from an sti six speed this is by no means the same. i understand its still a gear, but it isn't designed as a performance six speed like the sti thus its not a TRUE performance gearbox.....lets just leave it at that.

sho220 · 10-22-2012, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

its a 5 speed box with a 6th overdrive gear essentially. its not a six speed like the STi has is what i'm saying. its the same trans that was in the newer gen LGT

Ahhh...so it's a 6 speed...got it.

jmaryt · 10-22-2012, 11:28 PM

have to be honest,don't believe i have ever seen a gear box with 6 "power gears!"
generally one of 'em is an "overdrive" gear! and the next lowest is "'direct drive" 1 to 1
just sayin'

gunmetal5 · 10-22-2012, 11:35 PM

The AP1 s2000 had horrible low end torque and and my GTI has great low to mid end power so the two manual trannys have different power bands.

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10-22-2012, 10:40 PM	#1
gunmetal5 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: FRS - MY13 Location: SoCal Posts: 108 Thanks: 16 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How's the drive using traffic? Manual tranny only I was stuck in 2 hours of traffic on Friday in my 2010 Gti with a manual tranny. It a great car with an awesome manual transmission, the complete opposing my s2000. I made me think about how bad or good the frs/brz would handle in traffic....

10-22-2012, 10:43 PM	#2
ill86 VehicleDynamicsSpecialist Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: iG FR-S Location: illtuned / PittRace Posts: 750 Thanks: 1,185 Thanked 203 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The same as any other manual in traffic.. __________________ "The best track modification you can ever make is between the steering wheel and seat." - CSH

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10-22-2012, 10:44 PM	#3
gunmetal5 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: FRS - MY13 Location: SoCal Posts: 108 Thanks: 16 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh and please keep the flaming from people who bought the auto transmission to a minimum. You get better gas mileage and don't have to worry about traffic. Let's leave it at to each their own. PLEASE!

10-22-2012, 10:57 PM	#4
wrxgoose WUB WUB Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Charlotte Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 313 Thanked 1,573 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 52 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	couple things: first off, while i don't have my 86 yet, i do have a 6 speed that i drive every day (delivery driver) so i have to deal with rush hour almost every day. manuals get better milage than auto, actually, because you can better control the rpms. if the twins are like my mini is, then it should be good in heavy traffic. just let the clutch out, let it roll onto it, nice and smooth, not using any throttle (though that depends on the road angle) edit: i apologize if this seems rambling, been drinking, and will edit this post if i can't understand it when i sober up

10-22-2012, 11:00 PM	#5
Jive Turkey the tuna, no crust. Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2014 Hachiroku of the year Location: jersey Posts: 2,299 Thanks: 874 Thanked 1,770 Times in 761 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the 6speed in the brz isn't a true 6 speed. fyi. i came from a 2011 sti and driving that in traffic was just annoying. while the clutch wasn't heavy you have to compensate with more throttle on that car, further more that 6-speed in that car has such a huge rpm drop between 1st-2nd that in traffic crawling in 2nd is hard because it bogs. i was stuck in NYC traffic in the brz, and i crawled in 2nd the entire time with no issues. the clutch is so light that my foot never really got tired. its not bad compared to other cars that i've driven, especially non-stock clutch modifed cars.

10-22-2012, 11:02 PM	#6
FRiSson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT Location: New England Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 118 Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Got to admit, that my Honda's had smoother easier manuals than the FR-S. However, I don't mind driving the manual in traffic. However, I hate driving in traffic period. Actually driving a manual makes it better, because it gives you something physical to do. I suppose if I had the auto, I would just fiddle with the paddles a lot.

10-22-2012, 11:07 PM	#8
Jive Turkey the tuna, no crust. Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2014 Hachiroku of the year Location: jersey Posts: 2,299 Thanks: 874 Thanked 1,770 Times in 761 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	its a 5 speed box with a 6th overdrive gear essentially. its not a six speed like the STi has is what i'm saying. its the same trans that was in the newer gen LGT

10-22-2012, 11:18 PM	#10
jmaryt Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2012 honda civic ex Location: salem,nh. Posts: 1,676 Thanks: 299 Thanked 186 Times in 144 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"overdrive" IS a gear! in 6-speed 5-speed,and 4-speed manual gear boxes,6th,5th,and 4th are overdrive gears respectfully,in ALL manual gear boxes! '"generally",5th,4th,and 3rd gears in respective gear boxes are "direct drive" gears 1 to 1, and ALL gears below those gears are "power" gears,or acceleration gears!

10-22-2012, 11:21 PM	#11
Jive Turkey the tuna, no crust. Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2014 Hachiroku of the year Location: jersey Posts: 2,299 Thanks: 874 Thanked 1,770 Times in 761 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	yes but coming from an sti six speed this is by no means the same. i understand its still a gear, but it isn't designed as a performance six speed like the sti thus its not a TRUE performance gearbox.....lets just leave it at that.

10-22-2012, 11:28 PM	#13
jmaryt Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2012 honda civic ex Location: salem,nh. Posts: 1,676 Thanks: 299 Thanked 186 Times in 144 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	have to be honest,don't believe i have ever seen a gear box with 6 "power gears!" generally one of 'em is an "overdrive" gear! and the next lowest is "'direct drive" 1 to 1 just sayin'

10-22-2012, 11:35 PM	#14
gunmetal5 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: FRS - MY13 Location: SoCal Posts: 108 Thanks: 16 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The AP1 s2000 had horrible low end torque and and my GTI has great low to mid end power so the two manual trannys have different power bands.

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