TCS & VSC

[brian_c_m]

So, I picked up my 86 manual on Tuesday night and I've only had a few days of driving it around. I absolutely love the car and I love the looks I get from bystanders. The car is truly as nice to drive as it is to just look at!

Last night, when showing it off my my brother, I wanted to leave there in a bit of a burn out but without thinking, I left the TCS on and didn't have the get away I was hoping for silly me!
This got me thinking, though. Is anyone here driving around with TCS off but VSC on? My understanding of the 2 controls is that TCS aims to reduce/eliminate tire spin while VSC is meant to keep the vehicle controllable while the car is in a skid/drift?

The reason I ask is because this is my first RWD car, so I'm not going to be too reckless with it until I get more of a feel for the car, but at the same time I'd still like a bit more spin coming from the tires.

Can anyone here advise me on how I can expect the car to behave if I turn off the TCS but I keep VSC on?

Thanks
B

[ngabdala]

I leave them both off unless it is raining. If it rains I put the car into sport mode. If it's a downpour I leave them on.

[pinoyplaya]

One press VSC FTW!

Love it. Able to peel off without problems.

[brian_c_m]

Originally Posted by pinoyplaya

One press VSC FTW!

Love it. Able to peel off without problems.

Do you mean leave TCS on and VSC off? Or visa versa?
I'm looking for decent wheel spin without compromising too much on stability until a gain a better level of confidence with the RWD.

[lordgrover]

A very sensible, mature position.

I, however, switch off the lot because I'm a double hard driving god. May I rest in peace.

[Skyhound]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

I leave them both off unless it is raining. If it rains I put the car into sport mode. If it's a downpour I leave them on.

Worst advice ever, this is the reason so many FR-S's are getting totaled.

You really should be leaving both VSC and TCS ON when you're on public roads. ESPECIALLY if this is your first RWD car. Go to an empty parking lot and play around with the different settings, leave the wheel spin on the track dude.

[WolfsFang]

Originally Posted by Skyhound

Worst advice ever, this is the reason so many FR-S's are getting totaled.

You really should be leaving both VSC and TCS ON when you're on public roads. ESPECIALLY if this is your first RWD car. Go to an empty parking lot and play around with the different settings, leave the wheel spin on the track dude.

Its not bad advice its his personal pref. I for one sometimes dont like driving with them on, they sometimes can hinder the driver if the car goes out of control for a unpredicted reason.

[Ricepuddin]

I leave them on unless I'm going out to play, and never on a busy road. Everyone thinks they're Ken Block (appropriately since he spent a lot of his time I the WRC in a ditch) and their confidence leads to complacency. I know I'm an excellent drive, but I don't feel the need to prove myself

Originally Posted by lordgrover

A very sensible, mature position.

I, however, switch off the lot because I'm a double hard driving god. May I rest in peace.

That my friend is the single best quote I've read from anyone on this forum. Internet high five


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[Texas BRZ]

I don't have the courage to turn of all the nannies on public roads, I'll be the first to admit. Better safe than sorry, that's my policy, haha.

On the track however, I'm looking forward to turning everything OFF right from the get-go.

My prior '11 MX-5 didn't come standard with stability / traction control, but that was a more controlled car to drive fast... The FR-S tends to like sliding a bit more, of course... Hehe.

[FR-S,M.D.]

Just learn proper throttle control and steering input. You won't learn with nannies on, but until you do learn, just don't drive like you're some racing god. Most cars, even rwd, didn't come with tcs/vsc standard 10 years ago and I didn't see people spinning out left right and center.

[driftartist]

i always leave them off, but then again i am not burning out or sliding all the time either, i just like the thought of having a car assistless, itll make you soft and spoiled. my supra had no assists, i will stay that way.

[Wolfking]

Originally Posted by driftartist

i always leave them off, but then again i am not burning out or sliding all the time either, i just like the thought of having a car assistless, itll make you soft and spoiled. my supra had no assists, i will stay that way.

I agree to a point. Driver aids are nice but We all should learn to drive without them. With this in mind it is important to point out the fact that my FRS has "potentially spun out or crashed" when I was not expecting it. (had the assist aids not been engaged) I believe this can be attributed to a tire width of 215 which has never been my choice for what I call a predictable car. From my experience 225 is the minimum width I prefer. Until I purchase new wheels with 225/45 rubber, I'll leave driver's assist aids on!

[jm1681]

My car hasn't done anything odd or unpredictable as a result of leaving them on, so until they give me a reason to turn them off, I don't bother turning them off.

If they finally start auto-crossing by me, I'll experiment to see which setting works best, but on the street, in traffic, they stay on.

[ngabdala]

1: It wasn't advice. It's how I do it.
2: Wheel spin? I'm not sure what you picture I'm doing on a public road. If I want to have fun I do it in a parking lot.
3: You said it's why so many FR-S get totaled. You didn't mention the BRZ. Maybe it's all about the driver.
4: Relax man. You can't enjoy life being that serious.

Originally Posted by Skyhound

Worst advice ever, this is the reason so many FR-S's are getting totaled.

You really should be leaving both VSC and TCS ON when you're on public roads. ESPECIALLY if this is your first RWD car. Go to an empty parking lot and play around with the different settings, leave the wheel spin on the track dude.