FRS @ Homestead speedway

[yomny]

Please be gentle with the criticism, but they are welcome. Made a rookie mistake of lifting completely in a high speed corner with a dip and it didn't go well. Its good to ride with stock rides because this had never happened to me in my track s2k and e92 m3, i guess stock tires and stock suspension are good teachers. Can someone please show me how to embed videos, i've tried copying the code given on youtube but that doesnt work.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g***Zya7fnc&feature=g-upl"]FRS at homestead speedway - YouTube[/ame]

[ill86]

I watched the first two minutes so far. This is professional advice given in a friendly manner:

- Keep your right hand on the wheel until you need to shift.
- Try not to wrap your thumbs. Keep them in contact with the wheel. By wrapping them you aren't effectively using them.

Back to the vid...

Edit - Your racing line is pretty good so far.

[yomny]

Thanks, i find myself wrapping them constanly, bad habit i have to get rid off. Thanks

[ultra]

I read your description before watching so I thought you meant 3:15...then !

You seem to have excellent track etiquette, which is golden, and your technique seems pretty sound in general.

Same caveat as the other dude pointed out: Must always keep both hands on wheel! Ideally always in the same position too. (Yeah, I forget too).

Excellent quality vid BTW, thanks!

[ill86]

What was your tire pressure before and after that session?
Did you have difficulty at 8:35 because you were on the curbing?

Overall not too bad. Looks like a great track. Close call at the end. :happy0180:

Practice moving your hands a little more. Don't "pinch" yourself on the sharp turn in.
A change of grip or pre-grip prior to turn in will net smoother results and better hand placement mid turn at apex.

To do this, place your left hand (for left hand entry) at "twelve o clock", right hand at 3. Pull down on the wheel with your left hand to 9 while sliding the wheel through your right hand. Mid turn your left hand should be at 9 and your right at 3. Opposite for right hand entry.

I can explain again if need be.

Have fun , stay safe.

[Vracer111]

Originally Posted by yomny

Please be gentle with the criticism, but they are welcome. Made a rookie mistake of lifting completely in a high speed corner with a dip and it didn't go well. Its good to ride with stock rides because this had never happened to me in my track s2k and e92 m3, i guess stock tires and stock suspension are good teachers. Can someone please show me how to embed videos, i've tried copying the code given on youtube but that doesnt work.

http://youtu.be/g***Zya7fnc?hd=1

Your steering inputs are smooth and precise enough, but your throttle application seems to lag behind what it should be for cornering and lines in the tighter sections could use some improvement. I haven't bother tracking the FR-S with the stock tires, but if you are doing it 'right' (just about at the limit) they should be making some noise (singing) the whole time you're cornering until you unload them to straighten out. Use the throttle to set the rear and turn the car better/faster...the FR-S really steers beautifully with precise and accurate throttle control. The steering is just for the intial set into the turn anyways...once in the turn steering position should hardly change until ready to straighten out at the exit.

And as mentioned, both hands should stay on the steering wheel at all time other than when it necessary to change gears. It gives 2 big advantages - 1)You can push-pull the wheel for quicker and more precise control of the steering and 2) you will have a better feel for what the chassis and suspension is doing with 2 hands on the wheel than one (more contact/feedback area).

You are doing a good job...looks like a really fun high speed track!

P.S.:

This video of a miata running Homestead may help... (camera angle is not great, but it shows really good driving technique that also directly applies to the FR-S/BRZ)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlXTWH_Oni0"]NASA HPDE Homestead Miami Speedway in a 1.8 Miata - YouTube[/ame]

[yomny]

Lot of feedback and will definitely read over this a few times to try and apply it next session. I think the car handles fairly well given the stock tires are for a hybrid. I need to practice more hand positioning and balancing with throttle and not through steering input. I foremost go there to have and learn all that i can, i think etiquette makes things a lot more enjoyable for everyone else so i tried to point by everyone as soon as they were nearing me, which were a lot of people. This last session was loaded with very quick cars, mostly bmw's porches and vettes lol, making me look as if i were standing still. Nonetheless the experience is thrilling.

[F3dzo]

Originally Posted by yomny

Please be gentle with the criticism, but they are welcome.

Yomny,

I'd like to get some track time but I keep running into these companies that want to charge for a track day with instructors and the whole nine. Under what circumstances were you able to run your car at the track yesterday? Pm me or text me if you get a chance. I'd love to know when I could head to track without spending a ridiculous amount of money. Thanks man... Its not easy when you don't know a whole lot of people in this scene.

[yomny]

Second session, just tried to push the car a bit more and get it sideways but after watching the videos i see i wasn't smooth at all in recovering it. I definitely need a lot more practice, but i must say this is a fun car. The brakes held up the whole first section of about 5 laps and the second session with about 3 more before they showed any type of fade and the tires got more loose than i would have liked. thanks for watching.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsT8_iNXx80&feature=g-upl"]Homestead speedway frs - YouTube[/ame]

[F3dzo]

Lol I guess not...

[yomny]

lol sorry man didn't see your post lol,

[yomny]

Quick question guys, i never really slammed on the brakes of my car till the track but for some reason i dont feel they bite as hard as i thought they would. Now i dont know if its because of the track use or simply because thats how they are. The brakes worked great for the caliber they are but i feel them on the soft spongy side now. I checked the rotors and pads and they're ok, no odd marks, no burnt marks, a nice transfer layer is still visible. I did manage to measure the rotor temps after one session and it exceeded 678F which is the most my little temp gun reads. What are your thoughts on this. Im going to push the brakes tomorrow and see how they respond on the street(safely of course). Thanks