launching your 86 in second gear - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

whyreeto · 08-19-2012, 11:31 AM

Hey guys, before you guys decide to criticise me on this post, please take me as a newbie in driving a manual....

My last manual car didn't have the right amount of power, well it didn't feel smooth when i launched it in second gear, thats why i always started from the first gear....however, for the 86 to be idle at the lights or something, launching in second gear feels alot smoother than launching in first gear? maybe I'm pretty crap at reaching that friction point but still.....

I'm asking whether launching in second gear is bad for the car itself? in particular to it's mechanics?

KamalT · 08-19-2012, 11:50 AM

I used to do almost always in my skyline and start in 2nd gear. If you do it smooth enough and balance revs + release and you the car is not bogging down or drivestrain shudder, you should be fine. The idea is you need a bit of torque to break resistance and create motion.

Just remember if it is not protesting or screaming bloody murder you'll be alright.

st162celica · 08-19-2012, 07:39 PM

Extra clutch wear as you need to ride it longer.

Start in 1st, that's what it's there for.

Unless you are on a hill, let the car roll forward, then use 2nd gear.

mashal · 08-19-2012, 07:41 PM

Lol launch at 2nd? I feel bad for your clutch .. Unless your downhill then you will have enough roll to start in 2nd but first is there for a reason

#87 · 08-19-2012, 08:11 PM

How can I launch in second when the car lugs in second at less than 12 mph and I press the throttle?

Captain Snooze · 08-19-2012, 09:02 PM

As others have said there is added clutch wear but tell me why would you want to start off in 2nd gear anyway?

Loki556 · 08-19-2012, 11:08 PM

I used to drive a truck with 8 gears, so taking off in third was normal.

However, that was an engine build for torque, with this car you are better off starting off in first, unless you are already rolling or feeling lazy on moving downhill.

Overall, it won't make much difference.

Surok · 08-19-2012, 11:24 PM

dont think a 2L NA is the sort of thing you start off in 2nd with.. 3L V6 Mr2? ye. 2L with no torque? no thanks

Loki556 · 08-20-2012, 01:33 AM

What about a 5.6lt 6 cylinder turbo diesel???

BTW, can anyone guess what vehicle that is?

WTF · 08-20-2012, 01:47 AM

Starting in 2nd? On such a small engine? :S

pr0j · 08-20-2012, 09:17 AM

Yeah why are you starting in 2nd? It don't make no

Kimsey47 · 08-20-2012, 10:41 AM

Looks like you guys have never drove a stick! Start in neutral... Then pick a gear!

Captain Snooze · 08-20-2012, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

Looks like you guys have never drove a stick! Start in neutral... Then pick a gear!

What sort of inane comment is that?

RWD-boxer · 08-20-2012, 06:18 PM

Yeah that's not good for the clutch

08-19-2012, 11:31 AM	#1
whyreeto Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: NSW - AUSTRALIA Posts: 98 Thanks: 19 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	launching your 86 in second gear Hey guys, before you guys decide to criticise me on this post, please take me as a newbie in driving a manual.... My last manual car didn't have the right amount of power, well it didn't feel smooth when i launched it in second gear, thats why i always started from the first gear....however, for the 86 to be idle at the lights or something, launching in second gear feels alot smoother than launching in first gear? maybe I'm pretty crap at reaching that friction point but still..... I'm asking whether launching in second gear is bad for the car itself? in particular to it's mechanics?

08-20-2012, 10:41 AM	#12
Kimsey47 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2016 STI DGM Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,875 Thanks: 1,189 Thanked 1,460 Times in 662 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looks like you guys have never drove a stick! Start in neutral... Then pick a gear! __________________ Subaru STI :

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08-19-2012, 11:50 AM	#2
KamalT Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Pearl 86 GT Location: Gold Coast Posts: 227 Thanks: 82 Thanked 34 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I used to do almost always in my skyline and start in 2nd gear. If you do it smooth enough and balance revs + release and you the car is not bogging down or drivestrain shudder, you should be fine. The idea is you need a bit of torque to break resistance and create motion. Just remember if it is not protesting or screaming bloody murder you'll be alright.

08-19-2012, 07:39 PM	#3
st162celica Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 86 GTS Manual - Tornado Grey Location: Sydney - Aust. Posts: 631 Thanks: 269 Thanked 146 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Extra clutch wear as you need to ride it longer. Start in 1st, that's what it's there for. Unless you are on a hill, let the car roll forward, then use 2nd gear.

08-19-2012, 07:41 PM	#4
mashal DADA Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Location: Kanada Posts: 1,500 Thanks: 47 Thanked 388 Times in 249 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol launch at 2nd? I feel bad for your clutch .. Unless your downhill then you will have enough roll to start in 2nd but first is there for a reason

08-19-2012, 08:11 PM	#5
#87 I usually post drunk Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 1,487 Thanks: 15 Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How can I launch in second when the car lugs in second at less than 12 mph and I press the throttle?

08-19-2012, 09:02 PM	#6
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,817 Thanks: 4,047 Thanked 9,548 Times in 4,194 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As others have said there is added clutch wear but tell me why would you want to start off in 2nd gear anyway?

08-19-2012, 11:08 PM	#7
Loki556 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: RA23 Location: Brisbane Posts: 217 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I used to drive a truck with 8 gears, so taking off in third was normal. However, that was an engine build for torque, with this car you are better off starting off in first, unless you are already rolling or feeling lazy on moving downhill. Overall, it won't make much difference.

08-19-2012, 11:24 PM	#8
Surok Wise old man Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 GTS Location: Sydney Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 999 Thanked 240 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	dont think a 2L NA is the sort of thing you start off in 2nd with.. 3L V6 Mr2? ye. 2L with no torque? no thanks

08-20-2012, 01:33 AM	#9
Loki556 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: RA23 Location: Brisbane Posts: 217 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What about a 5.6lt 6 cylinder turbo diesel??? BTW, can anyone guess what vehicle that is?

08-20-2012, 09:17 AM	#11
pr0j Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: 2010 Forester X Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 282 Thanks: 49 Thanked 32 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah why are you starting in 2nd? It don't make no

08-20-2012, 06:18 PM	#14
RWD-boxer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Black Location: Tally Posts: 291 Thanks: 27 Thanked 61 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah that's not good for the clutch

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