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patelk100 · 08-16-2021, 01:09 AM

TL;DR I need a new engine and need suggestions. Want to keep it mostly stock

I currently own a 2014 MT FR-S and I blew the engine a few months ago. I was on the highway after doing a pull about 30 seconds prior and while cruising in the middle lane I lost power and couldn't accelerate. I tried to downshift and no dice and I ended up pulling over and getting a tow. There was no smoke or oil or anything leaking or signs of anything happening and still months later no leaks or sign of visual failure.

After getting it towed home after about 2 days I got it towed to my mechanic where he looked it over and tried to hand crank it and do everything and he said that the engine is seized and it wouldn't crank at all. When I tried starting it while it was home before I got it sent to the mechanic you can even hear the starter try to crank but it was seized and wouldn't crank.

For reference while in accessory mode the A/C works, it can shift in all the gears fine and everything else seems to work.

This is where I need help. I don't know much of what went wrong with the engine and I think something broke internally that has seized the engine. I am in the market for a new engine to put in the car. Currently it has 77k miles and I just had a new clutch put in about 1k miles before the engine blew. I need some info on what short or long block I could buy. I saw a eBay ad for a short block from AAA Engines in LA but the reviews all say they are fraudulent and so far I am looking at a short block from Crawford Performance. At this point I just want the car running and if I can get a used engine for cheap I will just get it running and sell the car and if I can find a new nice short block I will probably keep it.

Sorry for the rant but I just want to hear what you guys have to say as I don't know too much about cars and I need suggestions on what I should do and what engine I should go with. I want another FA20 and don't really want an upgraded one as I want to keep it reliable and mostly stock. Honestly any advice helps and I tried to provide as much context as possible but sorry for my rant.

Ashikabi · 08-16-2021, 07:59 AM

Dropping in a used one will be far be the cheapest

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humfrz · 08-16-2021, 01:10 PM

Well, patelk100, that's too damn bad your engine gave out on you.

Like Ashikabi suggested, obtaining a used engine my be your best option.

Good luck.

patelk100 · 08-17-2021, 07:07 PM

What is your guys' opinion on this?
https://crawfordperformance.com/coll...ubaru-oem-fa20
I like it and want it but I need to know if this would be a good buy also what other items would I need to buy if I wanted to install this short block. I have my old engine still but I need to know what I need to buy and what can be used from my old engine.

humfrz · 08-18-2021, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by patelk100

What is your guys' opinion on this?
https://crawfordperformance.com/coll...ubaru-oem-fa20
I like it and want it but I need to know if this would be a good buy also what other items would I need to buy if I wanted to install this short block. I have my old engine still but I need to know what I need to buy and what can be used from my old engine.

What can be used from your old engine would depend on what wasn't messed up causing it to stop running.

As mentioned before, I reckon your best bet would be to source a complete used engine and have it professionally installed.

The FA-20 engine ain't like your Dad's (or Grandpa's) old stove bolt 6 or flathead V-8 that could be rebuilt on the kitchen table.

Good luck -

NARFALICIOUS · 08-18-2021, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patelk100

What is your guys' opinion on this?
https://crawfordperformance.com/coll...ubaru-oem-fa20
I like it and want it but I need to know if this would be a good buy also what other items would I need to buy if I wanted to install this short block. I have my old engine still but I need to know what I need to buy and what can be used from my old engine.

That's just the block, what if there's head damage? If your "mechanic" can't tell you what parts you need or what's wrong with the engine, it's time to find a new mechanic. Hope you didn't pay him for a diagnosis when he didn't diagnose anything.

Think about this too, you're paying labor to take the engine out, and if you buy just a short block, you have to pay them to make sure the heads are fine, then swap over the heads, and get it timed right. Sure you save on parts but pay more on labor. And plus, is your mechanic good on boxer engines?

If you buy a full long block, the labor is much less because they just pull out and swap in the new engine, but the part cost will be much more.

08-16-2021, 01:09 AM	#1
patelk100 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Drives: 2014 FR-S MT Monogram Location: IN Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I need some help - FR-S TL;DR I need a new engine and need suggestions. Want to keep it mostly stock I currently own a 2014 MT FR-S and I blew the engine a few months ago. I was on the highway after doing a pull about 30 seconds prior and while cruising in the middle lane I lost power and couldn't accelerate. I tried to downshift and no dice and I ended up pulling over and getting a tow. There was no smoke or oil or anything leaking or signs of anything happening and still months later no leaks or sign of visual failure. After getting it towed home after about 2 days I got it towed to my mechanic where he looked it over and tried to hand crank it and do everything and he said that the engine is seized and it wouldn't crank at all. When I tried starting it while it was home before I got it sent to the mechanic you can even hear the starter try to crank but it was seized and wouldn't crank. For reference while in accessory mode the A/C works, it can shift in all the gears fine and everything else seems to work. This is where I need help. I don't know much of what went wrong with the engine and I think something broke internally that has seized the engine. I am in the market for a new engine to put in the car. Currently it has 77k miles and I just had a new clutch put in about 1k miles before the engine blew. I need some info on what short or long block I could buy. I saw a eBay ad for a short block from AAA Engines in LA but the reviews all say they are fraudulent and so far I am looking at a short block from Crawford Performance. At this point I just want the car running and if I can get a used engine for cheap I will just get it running and sell the car and if I can find a new nice short block I will probably keep it. Sorry for the rant but I just want to hear what you guys have to say as I don't know too much about cars and I need suggestions on what I should do and what engine I should go with. I want another FA20 and don't really want an upgraded one as I want to keep it reliable and mostly stock. Honestly any advice helps and I tried to provide as much context as possible but sorry for my rant.

08-16-2021, 07:59 AM	#2
Ashikabi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Northwest Iowa Posts: 7,359 Thanks: 454 Thanked 4,549 Times in 2,950 Posts Mentioned: 59 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Dropping in a used one will be far be the cheapest Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using Tapatalk

08-16-2021, 01:10 PM	#3
humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 30,432 Thanks: 29,826 Thanked 32,845 Times in 16,844 Posts Mentioned: 715 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Well, patelk100, that's too damn bad your engine gave out on you. Like Ashikabi suggested, obtaining a used engine my be your best option. Good luck.

08-17-2021, 07:07 PM	#4
patelk100 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Drives: 2014 FR-S MT Monogram Location: IN Posts: 17 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What is your guys' opinion on this? https://crawfordperformance.com/coll...ubaru-oem-fa20 I like it and want it but I need to know if this would be a good buy also what other items would I need to buy if I wanted to install this short block. I have my old engine still but I need to know what I need to buy and what can be used from my old engine.

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