Do we have the most useless mechanical speedometer ever made? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BrahmaBull1990 · 06-24-2021, 10:41 AM

I was looking at this thing today and you have to be doing 80mph to register (not even) 1/4 way around the face.

Who designed this? Haha

Purist · 06-24-2021, 10:44 AM

Huh? What the fuck are you talking about? You have difficulty registering your speed?? Because of the Speedo design?? Jesus H.

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Sasquachulator · 06-24-2021, 10:47 AM

I suggest you never drive an Aston Martin.

If the speedo makes you cringe, the tach in an AM will drive you nuts.

BrahmaBull1990 · 06-24-2021, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Purist

Huh? What the fuck are you talking about? You have difficulty registering your speed?? Because of the Speedo design?? Jesus H.

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lol you're spicy today

I never said I struggled to read the speed; it's digital ffs. I am just saying the mechanical speedo is a stupid design.

Go meditate or something before you drive someone off the road

The Red One · 06-24-2021, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrahmaBull1990

I was looking at this thing today and you have to be doing 80mph to register (not even) 1/4 way around the face.

Who designed this? Haha

When I first saw this speedo I said to myself Wow I can go 260 km.
After driving it for some time within permissible speeds I don’t see it or view it anymore
As it being way too difficult to monitor my speed.
the digital one is all I need.

Im just used to my other car where the top indicated speed is half of that and the
limited sweep is more suited to general legal driving.

Wally86 · 06-24-2021, 11:45 AM

Didn't someone say it was setup to have 86 at the horizontal position? Or something? lol

BrahmaBull1990 · 06-24-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Red One

When I first saw this speedo I said to myself Wow I can go 260 km.
After driving it for some time within permissible speeds I don’t see it or view it anymore
As it being way too difficult to monitor my speed.
the digital one is all I need.

Im just used to my other car where the top indicated speed is half of that and the
limited sweep is more suited to general legal driving.

EXACTLY.

I find myself having to look at the bottom of the gauge cluster to see the needle under normal driving conditions. The digital speedo is all I watch for driving. But it seems odd it is scaled as it is.

bcj · 06-24-2021, 12:08 PM

The dial isn't mechanical any more than the digits are.
Could be one small way to reduce weight by deleting the redundant system.

Sasquachulator · 06-24-2021, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wally86

Didn't someone say it was setup to have 86 at the horizontal position? Or something? lol

I think that might be just for the tach in the refresh, having the 7000 RPM mark right at the horizontal 12 o clock position (pre-refresh 7k is a bit past that mark)

I dont know if the speedo ever got that kind of attention.

Overdrive · 06-24-2021, 12:26 PM

If the digital screen ever malfunctions or dies I'll be pretty glad it's there. I don't use it because I don't need it having the digital one available (and the needle usually reads about a mph higher than my actual speed), but I appreciate the redundancy because shit happens, and it'll still be important to know how fast you're going.

Grady · 06-24-2021, 12:56 PM

I have had mine to 12 o’clock. I see no issue with it.

7 skulls · 06-24-2021, 01:11 PM

I like it. I keep my digital speedo in mph and reference the needle for kmh conversion. My last snowmobile had a 200kmh (120mph) speedo with a 270 degree sweep. Couldn't even see the needle half the time, useless.

BrahmaBull1990 · 06-24-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady

I have had mine to 12 o’clock. I see no issue with it.

ah haha! This is the correct response

ZDan · 06-24-2021, 01:21 PM

To be fair, most "mechanical" (analog/pointer) gauge only use 2/3 the face or 240 degrees of sweep, and 0-80 isn't 1/4 full sweep (90 deg), it's more like 1/3 or 120 degrees. So 80mph is *half* the "normal" 240 degree sweep range.

But surely everyone goes by the digital readout anyway...

At least major hashmarks are 20mph increments with 10mph sub-increments and 5mph sub-sub-incrrements, unlike some Porsches which have 25mph major increment with 5mph sub-increments, pretty dumb...

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Sasquachulator Pavement Grey Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2020 Toyota Camry XSE, 2017 BMW X1 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,116 Thanks: 109 Thanked 2,256 Times in 1,221 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I suggest you never drive an Aston Martin. If the speedo makes you cringe, the tach in an AM will drive you nuts.

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7 skulls Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: 2014 scion frs Location: Newfoundland Posts: 241 Thanks: 283 Thanked 247 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like it. I keep my digital speedo in mph and reference the needle for kmh conversion. My last snowmobile had a 200kmh (120mph) speedo with a 270 degree sweep. Couldn't even see the needle half the time, useless.

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ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,672 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,011 Times in 2,097 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	To be fair, most "mechanical" (analog/pointer) gauge only use 2/3 the face or 240 degrees of sweep, and 0-80 isn't 1/4 full sweep (90 deg), it's more like 1/3 or 120 degrees. So 80mph is half the "normal" 240 degree sweep range. But surely everyone goes by the digital readout anyway... At least major hashmarks are 20mph increments with 10mph sub-increments and 5mph sub-sub-incrrements, unlike some Porsches which have 25mph major increment with 5mph sub-increments, pretty dumb...

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