Takeda momentum Dyno test - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Alastor · 06-23-2020, 06:51 PM

Hi

My Dyno test gt86 my19 with takeda momentum.

After various tests, max hp is 200 and good torque, but to wheel down 40cv.

There is no difference between stock and with takeda, something went wrong? It has been installed in a workshop specialized in Racing and reprogramming

Joveen · 06-23-2020, 07:34 PM

Was this tuned for you're car using ecutek?

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Alastor · 06-23-2020, 08:01 PM

Was only tested before with stock and after with takeda, without ECU. Tomorrow will be known what hp get with ECU.

tomm.brz · 06-23-2020, 08:31 PM

there is no difference, because that intake doesn t provide gains compared to stock intake

it s that simple

it s not an upgrade from stock, as stock is already a cold air intake

Yoshoobaroo · 06-23-2020, 08:37 PM

Almost no intake does.

DarkPira7e · 06-23-2020, 09:08 PM

As others have said, the intake alone really doesn't do anything for this engine

Alastor · 06-24-2020, 02:52 AM

but that intake, ensures to give peaks of 9cv and 10nm. Why do they say something that is a lie?

tomm.brz · 06-24-2020, 03:23 AM

because they know how to trick dyno plots to make false advertisment and sell things

often with stock tunes, if you change airbox and maf position, it offset the AFR leaning it out
that brings more power in the immediate

After a while LTFT can correct it and the gains are gone

Tuned cars then can show even less differences because the tuner scales the maf for the intake installed so the final result is the same as with stock airbox

only differemt thing is intake sound maybe, and worse maf voltage signal stability bringing out lack of smoothness

PulsarBeeerz · 06-24-2020, 03:34 AM

Thank you for taking the time to do so and share.

Joveen · 06-24-2020, 11:00 AM

So far I think only GrimmSpeed or Mishimoto shows gains but tbh for the gain it's not worth the money. Unless mod bug kicks in or you just want the sound and bling under the hood. Drop in filter and call it a day.

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Yoshoobaroo · 06-24-2020, 11:11 AM

I'm curious if the tune allows you to extract more power from it. Eagerly awaiting the dyno with the ECU flash.

tomm.brz · 06-24-2020, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joveen

So far I think only GrimmSpeed or Mishimoto shows gains but tbh for the gain it's not worth the money. Unless mod bug kicks in or you just want the sound and bling under the hood. Drop in filter and call it a day.

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grimspeed one is good because it stabilizes the maf signal
mishimoto cold air i really like it because of the position but umfortunately it can t fit my hks v2

All these aftermarket intakes will somewhat make random results while on stock tune, and when tuned they tend to give just a little bit more airflow at high rpm

with speeds density they work better, if Speed density is well scaled

JD001 · 06-24-2020, 12:38 PM

I have the same CAi with a tune. The car does feel snappier, smoother and freer revving. Not dyno'd, the workshop was keen to get it tested but I haven't had the time to go back..

Yoshoobaroo · 06-24-2020, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001

I have the same CAi with a tune. The car does feel snappier, smoother and freer revving.

This is the real gain with a free-er flowing intake, I noticed it on the first drive with my TRD intake. The throttle response is better, and you get a little different sound.

06-23-2020, 06:51 PM	#1
Alastor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Drives: Toyota gt86 my19 Location: Spain Posts: 195 Thanks: 25 Thanked 62 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Takeda momentum Dyno test Hi My Dyno test gt86 my19 with takeda momentum. After various tests, max hp is 200 and good torque, but to wheel down 40cv. There is no difference between stock and with takeda, something went wrong? It has been installed in a workshop specialized in Racing and reprogramming

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Joveen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: Bone stock Location: Windsor, CT Posts: 776 Thanks: 535 Thanked 234 Times in 164 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Was this tuned for you're car using ecutek? Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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Alastor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Drives: Toyota gt86 my19 Location: Spain Posts: 195 Thanks: 25 Thanked 62 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Was only tested before with stock and after with takeda, without ECU. Tomorrow will be known what hp get with ECU.

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tomm.brz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: brz 2017 hksv2 Location: italy Posts: 2,279 Thanks: 515 Thanked 1,121 Times in 811 Posts Mentioned: 70 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	there is no difference, because that intake doesn t provide gains compared to stock intake it s that simple it s not an upgrade from stock, as stock is already a cold air intake

06-23-2020, 09:08 PM	#6
DarkPira7e Rust bucket enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS Location: Vermont Posts: 4,052 Thanks: 3,307 Thanked 4,202 Times in 2,111 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As others have said, the intake alone really doesn't do anything for this engine

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Alastor Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Drives: Toyota gt86 my19 Location: Spain Posts: 195 Thanks: 25 Thanked 62 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	but that intake, ensures to give peaks of 9cv and 10nm. Why do they say something that is a lie?

06-24-2020, 03:23 AM	#8
tomm.brz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: brz 2017 hksv2 Location: italy Posts: 2,279 Thanks: 515 Thanked 1,121 Times in 811 Posts Mentioned: 70 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	because they know how to trick dyno plots to make false advertisment and sell things often with stock tunes, if you change airbox and maf position, it offset the AFR leaning it out that brings more power in the immediate After a while LTFT can correct it and the gains are gone Tuned cars then can show even less differences because the tuner scales the maf for the intake installed so the final result is the same as with stock airbox only differemt thing is intake sound maybe, and worse maf voltage signal stability bringing out lack of smoothness

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PulsarBeeerz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: JRSC BRZ SOLD Location: Ohio Posts: 939 Thanks: 682 Thanked 741 Times in 396 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thank you for taking the time to do so and share.

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Joveen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: Bone stock Location: Windsor, CT Posts: 776 Thanks: 535 Thanked 234 Times in 164 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So far I think only GrimmSpeed or Mishimoto shows gains but tbh for the gain it's not worth the money. Unless mod bug kicks in or you just want the sound and bling under the hood. Drop in filter and call it a day. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

06-24-2020, 12:38 PM	#13
JD001 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: UK Posts: 6,261 Thanks: 7,980 Thanked 6,500 Times in 3,638 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I have the same CAi with a tune. The car does feel snappier, smoother and freer revving. Not dyno'd, the workshop was keen to get it tested but I haven't had the time to go back..

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