Supercharged FRS vs K20 Civic - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Alltezza · 05-31-2018, 05:26 PM

I shared this on the K Swap thread but I figured everyone else would enjoy this.

TLDW: FRS lost on a roll race, but won on the track

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD8BbdV1JLg[/ame]

fatoni · 05-31-2018, 06:58 PM

odd comparison but mildly interesting.

Evil Rocky · 05-31-2018, 07:56 PM

Was cool vid either way.

ZionsWrath · 05-31-2018, 08:12 PM

I dunno why but i love hearing dirt nasty civics

Seanzky · 06-01-2018, 07:27 AM

I imagine that wing caused plenty of drag, but a K-swapped Civic is a quick little car. So not really surprised the FRS won where corners were involved. Thanks for sharing.

nikitopo · 06-01-2018, 08:13 AM

A nice indication that a weaker NA motor, can still outperformed a SC'ed motor on a roll race. Car weight matters the most!

fatoni · 06-01-2018, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikitopo

A nice indication that a weaker NA motor, can still outperformed a SC'ed motor on a roll race. Car weight matters the most!

does it?

DarkPira7e · 06-01-2018, 10:44 PM

I think this shows that area under the curve matters most. In my opinion, centrifugal chargers on our cars have a really poor curve

nikitopo · 06-01-2018, 10:56 PM

and a chromoly flywheel on the K20A engine

mrg666 · 06-02-2018, 06:46 AM

FRS won the track race without any competition as a real sports car. Drag race was close but I don't care much about it. Even a Ford F150 or Chevrolet Silverado can be that fast. I know by experience

fatoni · 06-02-2018, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrg666

FRS won the track race without any competition as a real sports car. Drag race was close but I don't care much about it. Even a Ford F150 or Chevrolet Silverado can be that fast. I know by experience

As a real race car...

NoHaveMSG · 06-02-2018, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni

As a real race car...

You can all anything a race car if you race it. It is really no more built than any other boosted track car I have seen aside from the cage.

Impureclient · 06-02-2018, 11:21 AM

The comments on the youtube video are odd. Jerking each other off over the K motor. The FRS had bad starts on the roll race and destroyed it on the track.
Then a bunch of " if the Honda had better tires, brakes, aero, etc" it would have won the track race.

fatoni · 06-02-2018, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

You can all anything a race car if you race it. It is really no more built than any other boosted track car I have seen aside from the cage.

maybe if you ignore the differences between a race car and a street car but whatever you like.

05-31-2018, 05:26 PM	#1
Alltezza Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: WRB Limited BRZ Location: Tennessee Posts: 696 Thanks: 450 Thanked 276 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	Supercharged FRS vs K20 Civic I shared this on the K Swap thread but I figured everyone else would enjoy this. TLDW: FRS lost on a roll race, but won on the track [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD8BbdV1JLg[/ame]

05-31-2018, 06:58 PM	#2
fatoni Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430 Location: socal Posts: 4,416 Thanks: 599 Thanked 1,443 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s)	odd comparison but mildly interesting. __________________ Drive upgrades. Don't buy them.

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ZionsWrath Thanks Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 4,163 Thanks: 5,989 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s)	I dunno why but i love hearing dirt nasty civics __________________

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Evil Rocky Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: FRS Location: Chiraq Posts: 304 Thanks: 80 Thanked 54 Times in 50 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	Was cool vid either way.

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Seanzky Member Join Date: May 2018 Drives: Slow Location: TX Posts: 67 Thanks: 26 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I imagine that wing caused plenty of drag, but a K-swapped Civic is a quick little car. So not really surprised the FRS won where corners were involved. Thanks for sharing.

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nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,263 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s)	A nice indication that a weaker NA motor, can still outperformed a SC'ed motor on a roll race. Car weight matters the most!

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nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,263 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s)	and a chromoly flywheel on the K20A engine

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Impureclient Banned Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: NPR, Florida Posts: 2,404 Thanks: 1,802 Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s)	The comments on the youtube video are odd. Jerking each other off over the K motor. The FRS had bad starts on the roll race and destroyed it on the track. Then a bunch of " if the Honda had better tires, brakes, aero, etc" it would have won the track race.

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