I think the FRS/BRZ/86 is better than the S2000 - YouTube Video

[Scracho]

Alright, I want to preface this by saying I don't have a particular hate for the S2000 and quite honestly it's a great car! But after owning two of them and now onto my third 86 (2018 BRZ tS) I discuss why I feel these cars are underrated and why they make for a better daily/track/weekend car...

Enjoy!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKG0hvThnlw"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKG0hvThnlw[/ame]

[Jordanwolf]

uh oh.. This can only go south..

[bcj]

Only gravel log roads north of there? Seems legit.

[Scracho]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

uh oh.. This can only go south..

Lmao! Probably, I don’t claim to be a pro or a solid source for automotive knowledge but I think I make some good points

[Teseo]

Wow... just a dude rambling for almost 40min. The only person i will take the words about wich is better is Keiichi Tsuchiya

[Scracho]

Originally Posted by Teseo

Wow... just a dude rambling for almost 40min. The only person i will take the words about wich is better is Keiichi Tsuchiya

Yeah, I tend to talk a lot... Thanks for referring to me as a dude though

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Scracho

Lmao! Probably, I don’t claim to be a pro or a solid source for automotive knowledge but I think I make some good points

Honestly, I'm a Honda fan boy, but I didn't seek out an S2000 for the simple reason that the 86 is a better daily, and can function as a 3.5 seater in a pinch.

If Honda had an affordable RWD boxer, or even something just competitive in DD capabilities with that crazy low CoG and RWD, I'd jump ship immediately, but they don't..

Sure the 86 has heritage, but Honda has the NSfuckingX (The Senna one mind you). The car I want Honda to really make is a cheaper, slower, not as tech worthy.. NSX, but they never will.. Even if they took the S2000, chopped it up a bit, made the engine a mid engine mounted behind driver (I mean the car is already mid ship), but less tech than an NSX, just less everything, therefore less expensive, think Porsche Cayman price.... I would buy it literally tomorrow, 86 gone with the wind, in with the baby NSX.

[Scracho]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Honestly, I'm a Honda fan boy, but I didn't seek out an S2000 for the simple reason that the 86 is a better daily, and can function as a 3.5 seater in a pinch.

If Honda had an affordable RWD boxer, or even something just competitive in DD capabilities with that crazy low CoG and RWD, I'd jump ship immediately, but they don't..

Sure the 86 has heritage, but Honda has the NSfuckingX (The Senna one mind you). The car I want Honda to really make is a cheaper, slower, not as tech worthy.. NSX, but they never will.. Even if they took the S2000, chopped it up a bit, made the engine a mid engine mounted behind driver (I mean the car is already mid ship), but less tech than an NSX, just less everything, therefore less expensive, think Porsche Cayman price.... I would buy it literally tomorrow, 86 gone with the wind, in with the baby NSX.

I’m with you! I’m a Honda guy and have been for years and couldn’t agree with you any more... I was really looking forward to the rumours of a baby NSX being released and drooled at this photo forever until I heard it’s not happening. It’s unfortunate because I feel Honda is really missing out on a gap in their market.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Honestly, I'm a Honda fan boy, but I didn't seek out an S2000 for the simple reason that the 86 is a better daily, and can function as a 3.5 seater in a pinch.

If Honda had an affordable RWD boxer, or even something just competitive in DD capabilities with that crazy low CoG and RWD, I'd jump ship immediately, but they don't..

Sure the 86 has heritage, but Honda has the NSfuckingX (The Senna one mind you). The car I want Honda to really make is a cheaper, slower, not as tech worthy.. NSX, but they never will.. Even if they took the S2000, chopped it up a bit, made the engine a mid engine mounted behind driver (I mean the car is already mid ship), but less tech than an NSX, just less everything, therefore less expensive, think Porsche Cayman price.... I would buy it literally tomorrow, 86 gone with the wind, in with the baby NSX.

Drove a friend's Honda powered Elise once. If Honda made something like that, that was decently affordable, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Scracho

I’m with you! I’m a Honda guy and have been for years and couldn’t agree with you any more... I was really looking forward to the rumours of a baby NSX being released and drooled at this photo forever until I heard it’s not happening. It’s unfortunate because I feel Honda is really missing out on a gap in their market.

The things I would do for an affordable NSX... Been my dream car ever since I could remember cars. It is the only car in existence that I cannot think about logically, nothing is better than it in ever aspect.... (I lie, maybe interior).

[Leonardo]

S2000 > FR-S - Overall car


S2000 > FR-S - Track use


S2000 < FR-S - DD use


I have owned both too.

[Teseo]

I want an 86 but with LFA engine, so baby LFA? V10 engine with the v8 engine dimension

[Scracho]

Originally Posted by Teseo

I want an 86 but with LFA engine, so baby LFA? V10 engine with the v8 engine dimension

That would be ridiculous

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Honestly, I'm a Honda fan boy, but I didn't seek out an S2000 for the simple reason that the 86 is a better daily, and can function as a 3.5 seater in a pinch.

If Honda had an affordable RWD boxer, or even something just competitive in DD capabilities with that crazy low CoG and RWD, I'd jump ship immediately, but they don't..

Sure the 86 has heritage, but Honda has the NSfuckingX (The Senna one mind you). The car I want Honda to really make is a cheaper, slower, not as tech worthy.. NSX, but they never will.. Even if they took the S2000, chopped it up a bit, made the engine a mid engine mounted behind driver (I mean the car is already mid ship), but less tech than an NSX, just less everything, therefore less expensive, think Porsche Cayman price.... I would buy it literally tomorrow, 86 gone with the wind, in with the baby NSX.

But Toyota probably has more heritage than Honda, the cog of the frs isn't all that crazy, and if you want a cayman priced midship the cayman is going to be better than a Honda.