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DarkSunrise · 06-26-2016, 09:15 AM

Which is the best BMW ever, M1 vs. E30 M3?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv_ofel_44o"]BEST BMW EVER - Which BMW is the 'Ultimate Driving Machine'? | Autocar - YouTube[/ame]

I haven't driven either the M1 or E30 M3, but personally I have a soft spot for the E36 M3 having ridden in a few at the track. Great combination of handling, light(ish) weight, seating position/feedback, and that amazing sounding I6. The Euro-spec 321 hp E36 M3 would have made an interesting comparison in the video.

Also having watched the video, it's interesting how certain BMW's (E30 M3, 3.0 CSL, etc.) have that timeless quality of looking fantastic even today.

Teseo · 06-26-2016, 09:44 AM

Non of above

Mr.Impreza · 06-26-2016, 12:24 PM

Love the look, especially the front end of the E30! So beautiful!

krayzie · 06-26-2016, 12:26 PM

Not E36 M3, the 3rd car should be a Z1.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-o4LFi6qQ"]BMW Z1 review - YouTube[/ame]

RichardsFRS · 06-26-2016, 01:20 PM

I dig the old james bond 8 series but best they ever made was the m3

DarkSunrise · 06-27-2016, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

Love the look, especially the front end of the E30! So beautiful!

Yes, and doubly so for the M model with the fender flares!

Will never go out of style.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krayzie

Not E36 M3, the 3rd car should be a Z1.

Haha that's shall we say... interesting

Kind of reminds me of BMW's i cars, almost experimental in purpose.

krayzie · 06-27-2016, 12:53 AM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hpDHN4bVqA"]The BMW 8 Series. E31. - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLwt6dA93O8"]bmw e34 m5 commercial - YouTube[/ame]

"But always with a manual gearbox, because the M5 is above all, a drivers car"

Before all those E30 M3 videos came about I watched this:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4BtgICOF9A"]The BMW E30 M3 A Moving Story- The Joy - YouTube[/ame]

cdrazic93 · 06-27-2016, 04:26 AM

anyone remember the attempted super car the Z8?

strat61caster · 06-27-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93

anyone remember the attempted super car the Z8?

lolwut?

In no way was the Z8 a supercar, even at the time.

Here's Car and Driver's article on it coming out, titling it a 'sports car'
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

And here it is compared to the drop top DB7 and 360:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests

With the following quote about the 3:

Quote:

They are, above everything else, automotive indulgences, bought not because the 360 Spider generates marginally more lateral acceleration than the Aston does, but on purely subjective grounds.

Interesting tidbit, the aluminum spaceframe was too rigid, over time it developed cracks. The preemptive solution was to drill holes in it allowing the chassis to flex and relieve strain at the joints. I believe BMW had to rebuild a few cars for customers before they rolled out the fix.

Edit: To be on topic, what strikes be about BMW is that they don't seem to lose the spirit in the older cars even as practicality is added. From the 2002 wagon to the M5 wagon, another pair of doors and seats wasn't a death sentence for performance.

I've got a hankering for an e36 sedan in techno violet at the moment...

cdrazic93 · 06-27-2016, 01:23 PM

I was young when I saw it and never had interest in it. So the $135,000 price tag made me think it was some super car. Ofcourse I was about 6 at the time.

funwheeldrive · 06-28-2016, 03:53 PM

There is only one true answer.

Tcoat · 06-28-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

There is only one true answer.

Nope.
Two

gravitylover · 06-28-2016, 04:44 PM

3.0 CS/CSL?

FX86 · 06-28-2016, 04:49 PM

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