Coilovers, Cups, or Bags - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

lizbrayan · 05-24-2016, 03:59 PM

Hello all, if some of you recall I posted a thread asking how to stance/slam my car. Well its been a few months after that and I've saved up a quite a bit of money. Now it comes down to choices. I can go with some BC BR extreme low coilovers and just run the car about an inch off the ground and just drive real slow everywhere. Option 2 is to go with air cups. These are little pistons in the coils that raise the car up about 1/2-1" depending on the package I go with. and lastly I can do bags.
Heres my problem though. I have enough money for the coils and still have a little extra for a couple more things. Or empty my pockets and go with the cups that only raise the front of the car 1/2-1". And I am no where near having enough money for even the basic bag system for my car. And sadly no place lets me do a payment plan sort of thing. So just looking for opinions from all of you and please please play nice.

ZionsWrath · 05-24-2016, 04:01 PM

If you really want to be able to be millimeters off the ground, do yourself a favor and go for air.

If saving for air is already breaking the bank, replacing parts your break while driving static 1" ride height will be worse.

mav1178 · 05-24-2016, 04:03 PM

If you cannot afford to bag the car, you shouldn't be slamming it to begin with...

-alex

lizbrayan · 05-24-2016, 04:04 PM

See thats not true, Ive seen plenty of people slammed and on coils.

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mav1178 · 05-24-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lizbrayan

See thats not true, Ive seen plenty of people slammed and on coils.

Fine, ignore the opinions provided. Enjoy your slamming on coilovers.

ZionsWrath · 05-24-2016, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lizbrayan

See thats not true, Ive seen plenty of people slammed and on coils.

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It's easy to slam on coils. The hard part is being STATIC.

Can you live with the broken parts, ruined bumpers, lip kits and god knows what else?

tumbla.jr · 05-24-2016, 04:07 PM

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/ sells air. They also offer financing... not that this is something i'd finance but they do have the option.

Ashikabi · 05-25-2016, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lizbrayan

See thats not true, Ive seen plenty of people slammed and on coils.

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Pro tip: If you post asking for opinions then shoot them down, people get pissy then no one wants to help you.

Everyone here is right. Being static at 1" ride height will significantly reduce the usefulness and probably your enjoyment of the car. I think it looks great, but even shallow driveways(or anything really, will be inaccessible without destroying your bumper. This means you can't drive anywhere, so why have a car you can't drive? Bags are "best" because of the control they offer. Coils with a cup kit is a pretty close second. The cup kits I've seen offer 1-2 inches of lift. If you were at say a 2inch clearance, with 2 inch cups, you'll be able to go most anywhere. If you can't afford bags but are dead set on slamming it's really the only way. Static without cups is really only good for trailer queens

mav1178 · 05-25-2016, 02:43 PM

BTW my comment about not being able to afford bags is spot-on.

If you want to slam your car, the first thing you should realize is that you will damage things, mostly unintentional. All you need is some minor debris in the road that would not do much damage at a normal ride height, and you'd end up with hundreds or thousands of dollars in repairs, some cosmetic and others structural or mechanical.

People slammed on coils are the same as people that daily drive a (newish) car with liability insurance only. They think it's cheaper to save in some fashion by going with the cheapest option, but the only way it will work is if nothing goes wrong. And once you live life long enough, you'll realize that at some point, everything always goes wrong.

Bottom line is, you can slam the car on coils. But since you mentioned you cannot afford an air ride system for this car, you really should reconsider what you want to do by "slamming" the car...

-alex

lizbrayan · 05-25-2016, 02:51 PM

See those are responses that I was looking for. Not just shutting down ideas without cause. I appreicate the responses guys. I'm probably just going to save money and wait to do it properly and get bags. On my way to work yesterday I noticed that the ramp to get into the parking lot is stupid steep. So id be screwed just on the way to work. Thanks guys much help.

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Ashikabi · 05-25-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lizbrayan

See those are responses that I was looking for. Not just shutting down ideas without cause. I appreicate the responses guys. I'm probably just going to save money and wait to do it properly and get bags. On my way to work yesterday I noticed that the ramp to get into the parking lot is stupid steep. So id be screwed just on the way to work. Thanks guys much help.

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No problem. I'm 4 inches off the ground and I only know of 2 drives I won't go over. I probably can make it, but I'd rather not try. I don't go anywhere with speed bumps though. They aren't that common around here so it's not a big deal for me

gramicci101 · 05-25-2016, 02:58 PM

I had the privilege of seeing an Acura TL set to an extremely low static ride height with aggressively offset tucked wheels. The guy was very proud that he was static. But his front lip looked like a chewed up bendy straw that had been spray painted, his side skirts didn't look any better, and his fenders were rippled and bent from where the tires had impacted over bumps. He was worried because the guy washing the car was turning the steering wheel too far while he maneuvered it around the shop.

Contrast that with the STI that was sitting right next to it on bags. Again, sitting on the ground, aggressive wheels tucked into fenders, lip kit all around, but it was pristine. Why? Because he didn't drive like that. He raised it up two or three inches so he could clear bumps and potholes without ripping car parts off.

NyC Zn6 · 05-25-2016, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

If you really want to be able to be millimeters off the ground, do yourself a favor and go for air.

If saving for air is already breaking the bank, replacing parts your break while driving static 1" ride height will be worse.

+1 ....ask me how i know

lizbrayan · 05-25-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6

+1 ....ask me how i know

How do you know lmfao

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05-24-2016, 03:59 PM	#1
lizbrayan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: '15 Scion Frs Steel Location: New Jersey Posts: 285 Thanks: 108 Thanked 53 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Coilovers, Cups, or Bags Hello all, if some of you recall I posted a thread asking how to stance/slam my car. Well its been a few months after that and I've saved up a quite a bit of money. Now it comes down to choices. I can go with some BC BR extreme low coilovers and just run the car about an inch off the ground and just drive real slow everywhere. Option 2 is to go with air cups. These are little pistons in the coils that raise the car up about 1/2-1" depending on the package I go with. and lastly I can do bags. Heres my problem though. I have enough money for the coils and still have a little extra for a couple more things. Or empty my pockets and go with the cups that only raise the front of the car 1/2-1". And I am no where near having enough money for even the basic bag system for my car. And sadly no place lets me do a payment plan sort of thing. So just looking for opinions from all of you and please please play nice.

05-24-2016, 04:01 PM	#2
ZionsWrath Thanks Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 4,163 Thanks: 5,989 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	If you really want to be able to be millimeters off the ground, do yourself a favor and go for air. If saving for air is already breaking the bank, replacing parts your break while driving static 1" ride height will be worse. __________________

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lizbrayan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: '15 Scion Frs Steel Location: New Jersey Posts: 285 Thanks: 108 Thanked 53 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	See thats not true, Ive seen plenty of people slammed and on coils. Sent from my SGH-T999N using Tapatalk

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	BTW my comment about not being able to afford bags is spot-on. If you want to slam your car, the first thing you should realize is that you will damage things, mostly unintentional. All you need is some minor debris in the road that would not do much damage at a normal ride height, and you'd end up with hundreds or thousands of dollars in repairs, some cosmetic and others structural or mechanical. People slammed on coils are the same as people that daily drive a (newish) car with liability insurance only. They think it's cheaper to save in some fashion by going with the cheapest option, but the only way it will work is if nothing goes wrong. And once you live life long enough, you'll realize that at some point, everything always goes wrong. Bottom line is, you can slam the car on coils. But since you mentioned you cannot afford an air ride system for this car, you really should reconsider what you want to do by "slamming" the car... -alex

05-25-2016, 02:51 PM	#10
lizbrayan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: '15 Scion Frs Steel Location: New Jersey Posts: 285 Thanks: 108 Thanked 53 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	See those are responses that I was looking for. Not just shutting down ideas without cause. I appreicate the responses guys. I'm probably just going to save money and wait to do it properly and get bags. On my way to work yesterday I noticed that the ramp to get into the parking lot is stupid steep. So id be screwed just on the way to work. Thanks guys much help. Sent from my SGH-T999N using Tapatalk

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gramicci101 Off Topic Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Vegas, baby! Posts: 4,610 Thanks: 2,369 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,170 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I had the privilege of seeing an Acura TL set to an extremely low static ride height with aggressively offset tucked wheels. The guy was very proud that he was static. But his front lip looked like a chewed up bendy straw that had been spray painted, his side skirts didn't look any better, and his fenders were rippled and bent from where the tires had impacted over bumps. He was worried because the guy washing the car was turning the steering wheel too far while he maneuvered it around the shop. Contrast that with the STI that was sitting right next to it on bags. Again, sitting on the ground, aggressive wheels tucked into fenders, lip kit all around, but it was pristine. Why? Because he didn't drive like that. He raised it up two or three inches so he could clear bumps and potholes without ripping car parts off.

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