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Feedback on Hawk ER-1 pads ?
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I’d be looking to see if anyone has had experience driving the new Hawk ER-1 endurance pads on track, and if possible how they may compare with the Ferodo ds1.1, which I ran last year on hpde, and was very satisfied with. Mu seems quite similar between the two compound. I found very little on the web on the new ER-1 besides Hawk’s content. Thanks |
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They're similar to the DS1.11 but a bit less torque. Sorta like a Pagid RSL29 too.
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So I thought I would offer some early feedback of my first experience using the new hawk ER-1 endurance pads on my Turbo BRZ on my first track/hpde day of the season. I can’t talk about longevity yet, however I can offer some initial feedback relative to the Ferodo DS 1.11 I used last season. Both were used with the same car and on the same track, a high speed circuit with 20 or 25mins sessions in an intermediate run group, with the stock (non PP) calipers and RBF600/660 oil. Pads were bedded in accordance with the manufacturer guide before each day. I used the DS1.11s with PS4S tires and the ER-1s with both PS4S and NT01s. I have no sponsorship whatsoever so (unfortunately for me I guess…), I buy all my consumables on my own dime… so I guess the feedback will not be financially biased… :-) although these are early first impressions on just 1 day (about 120mims) of track time, and one season apart, so not back to back.
Overall so far I found the ER-1s to be at least as capable as the DS1.11. Both gave me very reliable and steady breaking with no fading whatsoever throughout the day. The ER-1s seem to provide a higher Mu which allowed me to shorten my breaking distances, while providing ease of modulation such that I could control my braking with confidence. The first session was a bit less confidence inspiring however I was scrubbing the brand new NT01s and things really improved as the system heated up. On the PS4S, sometimes I felt the DS1.11 had to be feathered carefully on long high speed braking zones to avoid lockup/ABS kicking in, in comparison the ER-1s seemed to be a little easier to modulate once at operating temperature. Trying the ER-1s with the NT01s, I was expecting to feel the limit of the stock calipers, however so far so good - the brakes were steady, consistent and solid all day long, and the added grip allowed me to significantly shorten my braking zones, to a point I need now to adjust my braking points since I now am braking much too soon, and able to carry more speed in the turns. All this to say that the first impressions on the ER-1s are very positive, and seem a very strong contender to the ds1.11s. As I said in my earlier post, I really liked the DS1.11s, but wanted to give the ER-1s a try since they are more readily available in my area and less expensive relative to the DS1.11s. They needed to be warmed-up a bit more than the ferodos to perform well, but once heated up after the first session they performed flawlessly and with great stopping power and modulation all day long. I will be able to report more on durability later on in August … Cheers |
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