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Is there some kind of post with a current list of notes for the swap kit?
I've seen the oil dipstick baffle hole requirement and the weirdness with the fuel level, but I'm assuming there are some other things. I ordered the complete kit and my motor shows up tomorrow.
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On the main setup page the fuel pressure is set to 43psi or something, which I have read is an industry standard, but I believe our FPR is set to 60psi. Does that matter? Am I confused? What is the stock FPR set at, and if it fluctuates or something then is 43 psi just an industry low that is what trims/maps use or something?
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I assume the pump controller is running in fail safe and your pressure is just the tolerance of the in-tank regulator. |
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How much vibration is everyone getting? I might need to try disconnecting my exhaust mount that attaches to the transmission and see if that makes a difference. I'm just getting a lot of vibration, and I can't figure out why. Nothing is making contact with the chassis. It is particular bad on deceleration or when going slow like sub 40mph, but having higher revs like 3-4k.
The exhaust is louder going from the old setup with the stock frontpipe to this setup with the high flow Berk frontpipe, but I feel like things should be much smoother. I am driving the family's Accord with a K24, and it is butter smooth. My car was fairly race-car before, but it really went up a few notches, and I just don't know what to look for. The stock fuel pump has balancing shafts, so I don't know if that is leading to some vibration, the driveshaft is something, the exhaust is something, the transmission mount being hammered is something, etc. and is all adding up or if it is something problematic in my setup. https://www.k20a.org/threads/oil-pum...-posts.215233/ Quote:
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I think it's a little bit of everything adding up. The most vibration I get is about 3500-4500 mainly at the trans tunnel. I have some dash vibrations and interior vibrations but plan to address that with some sound deadening/dampening material.
Once the shifter is hard mounted to the chassis it sends a ton of NVH into the trans tunnel. I would like a shifter mount that is isolated like stock but the Kpower one functions and feels really good so I'll probably just live with it. Maybe put a rubber gasket between it and the tunnel? Balance shaft in the oil pump contributes to the vibration as well. I have no clue how much though. If you have gone with the lighter aluminum flywheel you probably have reduced dampening there as well. Single piece driveshaft with the fa20 has been known to create vibes at certain RPM so it is possible that could be a factor. I was considering modifying my stock two piece but I don't think there is enough room at the front section to make it feasible. At the end of the day Kpower made this kit for race cars with a sprinkle of street options. I'm okay with that to some extent but I think there are some options to make the car more comfy as a GT car. I've read these engines vibrate quite a bit, so there's probably only so much you can do to mitigate that. |
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I have the stock flywheel. I don’t feel a lot of vibration through the shifter, which made me think the vibration wasn’t originating out back, but maybe it is transferring through to the chassis. I don’t know.
The difficulty thus far is figuring out where the problem stems from. I don’t know how to rule out the driveshaft, engine, contact point, clutch, etc
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If they aren't delivering on this, then I think you guys should get on their Facebook page and publicly ask them to set the expectations. I've held off buying this swap kit for exactly this reason, from this thread and others (thanks everyone for participating and giving back to the community) there seem to be a few loose ends that should have been pretty obvious when they built the prototype, and if the only thing they did was throw it around a race track during QC that would definitely hide NVH issues, tuning issues, etc that one would experience driving on the street. |
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I'm not at all upset with the end product. You are correct that they did plenty to make the package more street centric than they could have with extra features. I knew the shifter was going to bring NVH into the cabin being solid mounted to the trans tunnel. The Whiteline insert also adds to this. I knew the single driveshaft was going to possibly create vibration at certain RPM. I also had read that a k24 wasn't exactly a vibration free powerplant especially when the oil pump balancing assembly is removed. So my expectations were on par with reality. I plan to address these at some point if possible to mitigate the buzz. Heck I would have bought a partial kit to fabricate my own solutions from the beginning if the package options made that more feasible. With that said I still think their overall intentions are for a racing centric audience. Maybe with a skew towards some streetability for autocross or TT but I think a large part of that is because a massive chunk of "racers" probably don't want a fully gutted car. |
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I plan to make some changes in the next few weeks to see if anything changes:
--I want to remove the strut tower to make sure it isn't hitting at all. I had hammered a little on the inner hood supports to makes sure there was no contact with engine movement, and I don't see rub marks, but I will eliminate that as a possibility. --I want to remove my exhaust hanger to the transmission and see if that makes a difference. If it does then I will cut off the current hanger and switch to a rubber mount. --I want to adjust my clutch pedal a few centimeters to see if that matters, as it seems a fraction bit lower than previous, but that could be just me moving from what car to the next. --I want to remove the under panels because something there seems like it is hitting or making shaking noises because there is a very tinny, hollow sound on decel. --I don't know what I could do to identify if the driveshaft is the source of some of the vibration. Most of the vibration is low speed, low load and high RPM and decel type of vibration. It seems the smoothest on the highway, which seems opposite of what most say when they complain of single piece driveshafts. Outside of that, I will double down on looking for other sources of noise and vibration. I'm pretty sure the clearance on the transmission tunnel is fine.
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