Trading Up

[BierMeister]

There is a long list of minor improvements that the 2017+ limited performance pack model offers over your 2014 premium. I generally feel like the non facelift owners tend to underestimate them and say things like, "You can add all of those features for only 5k and 40 hours of your time." The fact is that most owners probably can't tackle jobs like adding keyless entry, brembos, or sachs dampers. It would be a difficult conversion and your car would barely gain any value because at the end of the day... it's still a 2014.

That being said, it probably wouldn't worth upgrading to a 2019 or 2020. You'd still be better off waiting a few more months to find out whether or not the 2nd gen will be released for the 2021 model year. If it looks like the 2nd gen will take another year or 2, check out the "price paid" thread and buy a new 2019. You should definitely be able to pick one up for under 28k. Or... maybe a 2017 for under 23k.

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by soundman98

...basically, the 2014 is as close to a pure drivers car as one can get in this era. besides the performance packs altered brakes and dampers, every model update has slowly carried the car away from that. adding a backup camera to a tiny car... steering wheel controls... ditching part of the analog gauges for a screen that blinds at night...

It's pretty ridiculous to claim that having a backup camera, steering wheel controls and a small 4" LCD in the gauges (which by the way doesn't "blind at night" and dims along with the rest of the gauges if needed) makes the car less of a driver's car. If that makes you love your 2014 a little more though, run with it.

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

It's pretty ridiculous to claim that having a backup camera, steering wheel controls and a small 4" LCD in the gauges (which by the way doesn't "blind at night" and dims along with the rest of the gauges if needed) makes the car less of a driver's car. If that makes you love your 2014 a little more though, run with it.

Personally, I think having heat and AC are a bit much...I guess if it’s a DD

And what’s this infatuation with keyless entry?!

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

It's pretty ridiculous to claim that having a backup camera, steering wheel controls and a small 4" LCD in the gauges (which by the way doesn't "blind at night" and dims along with the rest of the gauges if needed) makes the car less of a driver's car. If that makes you love your 2014 a little more though, run with it.

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[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

Personally, I think having heat and AC are a bit much...I guess if it’s a DD

And what’s this infatuation with keyless entry?!

True, I'm sure Soundman has removed the heat, AC, radio, speakers, carpet, passenger seat, etc. from his ultimate driver's car 14 brz!

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

True, I'm sure Soundman has removed the heat, AC, radio, speakers, carpet, passenger seat, etc. from his ultimate driver's car 14 brz!

Maybe. I did but I still have some carpet and most of the time a passengers seat

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

Maybe. I did but I still have some carpet and most of the time a passengers seat

Well then good sir, it just isn't a true driver's car

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

Well then good sir, it just isn't a true driver's car

Lol Fail!

OP. It’s your money and it’s going to cost you to upgrade. Only you can decide if you want to pay that much.

I’d wait a couple of months and see what 2020 brings.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by BierMeister

There is a long list of minor improvements that the 2017+ limited performance pack model offers over your 2014 premium. I generally feel like the non facelift owners tend to underestimate them and say things like, "You can add all of those features for only 5k and 40 hours of your time." The fact is that most owners probably can't tackle jobs like adding keyless entry, brembos, or sachs dampers. It would be a difficult conversion and your car would barely gain any value because at the end of the day... it's still a 2014.

yes, many of the upgrades are reinforcements to the structure-- i thought i mentioned that. there were also significant changes to the motor to slightly bump power and improve reliability. the chassis is far more rigid than that of the 2014. i don't deny that. that was specifically why i also considered getting the newer version at one time.

and to be fair, i can add all of those things, though i dispute the costs and ease. i actively researched adding keyless ignition to my ranger because i like not having to dig out the key in the car, but wasn't happy with the bulky key fobs the aftermarket systems offered. i'm nit-picky.

brakes and suspension are already on my to-do list, though i see no benefit to getting the oem iterations, as the aftermarket offers more adjust-ability.

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ

It's pretty ridiculous to claim that having a backup camera, steering wheel controls and a small 4" LCD in the gauges (which by the way doesn't "blind at night" and dims along with the rest of the gauges if needed) makes the car less of a driver's car. If that makes you love your 2014 a little more though, run with it.

i can't stand the backlights of lcd's while night driving. i run a radio with a standard display because it's dimmer. i use different backlight colors for night driving. a back up camera requires a screen. i don't want the screen.

i had a screen nearly 15 years ago as part of my car computer setup, back when in-dash screen stereo's still cost thousands. i've moved beyond that.

i've never wanted steering wheel controls, ever. the radio is that close, there's no need for it.

[86MLR]

LOL

My 2017 86 is the best twin, na ahh, yeap, na ahh, yeap, na ahh, yeap

“Like sands through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives"

[Leonardo]

Originally Posted by soundman98

where are they selling a full set of 4 wheel brembos for less then $2k?!?

Ebay. Less than 2k shipped. I been looking at them too.

[Jdmuscle]

I paid way less for a new 19 with PP. Don’t buy a used one for 28k, you can get a new one for around 26500.

[Lantanafrs2]

You would be trading sideways not up

[Ernest72]

Originally Posted by Leonardo

Ebay. Less than 2k shipped. I been looking at them too.

That’s where they are. But my stockers are fine. Can’t spend that much just for bling.