Oil Temps

[Fish Eagle]

Anyone else monitor oil temps?

I'm a little concerned that mine are running a bit high, and maybe I need an oil cooler.
But I'm basing my judgement on many years ago, so I could be (probably) worried about nothing.
Modern oils are likely much better than I'm used to.

Pre FI, the highest temps I saw were coolant 93°C and oil 120°C
Post FI, I see coolant up to 96°C and oil 130°C.
It's the oil temp that worries me a bit.
130°C seems quite high, and that's not even pushing it really hard.
I'm planning to do some track days soon, and I'm not sure where I stand...

Whadderyathinkanall?

[Fish Eagle]

Short vid, sorry about the poor quality.
Recorded on my very old Nokia non-smartphone...

Bottom left on the display is oil temp.
You'll see it goes from 100°C to 107°C in under 20secs.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlQD6igrb30"]Toyota 86 Oil Temps - YouTube[/ame]

[Ryan86]

If you hitting 130 I would consider oil cooler.

RMS supercharger in Durban I'm maxing at 126 deg, I'm told we good to 130 thereafter oil cooler necessary.
Average oil temps at 106 and coolant 86 degrees

[Jacques Blom]

I added a oil cooler to my Tubo setup..just to be on the save side..cost about R 4000.00..small price to pay for a safety.. Will monitor my oil and report back.

[Fish Eagle]

Originally Posted by Ryan86

If you hitting 130 I would consider oil cooler.

RMS supercharger in Durban I'm maxing at 126 deg, I'm told we good to 130 thereafter oil cooler necessary.
Average oil temps at 106 and coolant 86 degrees

My ave oil temp is similar, but my coolant runs a bit higher - ave about 89-90°
I wonder if that's my intercooler interfering with the rad a bit? Or slightly different thermostats? @Ryan - do you have an i/c?

I won't get oil temp to 130° on the level no matter how hard I drive.
It's up hills that it gets hot, like having a burn up a mountain pass.

[Ryan86]

Yes have the Spritex RMS Imtercooled kit.
Pushing .7 bar 188wkw 277Nm
We have tested at intake temps of 40 degrees, max coolant 103 and max oil 126 and kit holds strong.
Dyno testing we ran 3 runs and the highest numbers recorded on run 3, which was good to see the twin screw maintains power.

Your Vortech should be good without any requirement to add on. But if you have spare cash oil cooler won't hurt.

[Fish Eagle]

I did a hard and fast high effort run up a local pass today which is very similar to track conditions - and my oil temp looked great.
Never went over 122°C which I think was a lot cooler than my tyres.

I've seen it up to 130°C, but that's with uphill high speed runs.
It looks like frequent braking, and feathering the throttle through slower corners gives the oil temp a breather.

I'm ready to go on track and see what happens and that'll happen later this month.
I'll start another thread to see it anyone's interested in getting a few 86's together for some track fun.

[Jacques Blom]

HI Fish ,Ryan and Eagle ,, I am using Torque Pro ( Android) but not able to find the Oil temp reading. What software do you use or am I missing a set-up screen or do I need to install the Oil PID ?

[Fish Eagle]

Originally Posted by Jacques Blom

HI Fish ,Ryan and Eagle ,, I am using Torque Pro ( Android) but not able to find the Oil temp reading. What software do you use or am I missing a set-up screen or do I need to install the Oil PID ?

With Torque Pro, you need to create the PID.
I don't remember how, but I got the info on this forum somewhere.
I'll see if I can find it again.

Most of the time mine works perfectly, but sometimes everything else works but the oil temp doesn't.
Then I just exit Torque, restart the Torque app, and it's fine again.

Not a big issue, but still a bit of a PITA...

[Fish Eagle]

Originally Posted by Fish Eagle

I'll see if I can find it again.

@Jacques Blom
There ya go, post #2, item #1
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23530

[Jacques Blom]

Originally Posted by Fish Eagle

I did a hard and fast high effort run up a local pass today which is very similar to track conditions - and my oil temp looked great.
Never went over 122°C which I think was a lot cooler than my tyres.

I've seen it up to 130°C, but that's with uphill high speed runs.
It looks like frequent braking, and feathering the throttle through slower corners gives the oil temp a breather.

I'm ready to go on track and see what happens and that'll happen later this month.
I'll start another thread to see it anyone's interested in getting a few 86's together for some track fun.

Hi Fish, ,my oil runs ave 102 degrees..with my oil cooler..

[Fish Eagle]

Originally Posted by Jacques Blom

Hi Fish, ,my oil runs ave 102 degrees..with my oil cooler..

Interesting. That seems about normal for road use and I also get about that temp when not under heavy load. But my oil temp rises quickly at WOT.

However, I believe that it's important and necessary for oil temp to frequently exceed 100°C to ensure boiling off of any water condensation in the oil.

Since that post of mine in January, I've done several track days and my oil temp maxes out at 130°C at Midvaal, and 126°C at Zwartkops. I think that's where the cooling fans kick in because it seems to not go any higher. I've done quite a bit of research and that's considered OK, but close to the upper limit of what's acceptable.

I still think that I'll fit an oil cooler soon because I'm likely to continue tracking my car.

[Die$eL]

I'm a big believer in oil coolers.
On my turbo spyder it was burning oil quick. Also the oil went black within 100kms.
Added an oil cooler and all sorted. Unfortunately I cant monitor oil temps on that car.

I used the works engineering cooler. If i remember correct it was around R2000.
Chat to Wesley on the forum he can get them.

[MacJunkie]

Hi all found this thread interesting, has some insight on the oil temp and pressure on the 86 motors. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63723


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