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122 cubic inches of course, or 6 volts if its a Hybrid.
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06-23-2020, 10:03 AM | #1318 |
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Well the Miata has also been a collaboration for several years now so still not badge matching really.
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Exactly, who gives a shit? Focus on the design/engineering quality, who builds it is irrelevant. I’ve had cars made in Germany, Austria, Hungary, US, South Africa and Japan. The build quality differences between them aren’t perceptible. What’s with the hate on the Subaru drivetrain anyway? The most reliable Toyota is the 86*, and Subaru reliability has been above Toyota’s as of 2019. These aren’t EJs that eat their headgaskets for breakfast at 60k miles. *as of 2019 Consumer reports, 86 is the most reliable Toyota: Last edited by Yoshoobaroo; 06-29-2020 at 08:31 AM. |
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86 is the most reliable Toyota?
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As for emmisions, who said anything about emmisions, I'm more about, strength, reliabilty, and the ability to easily modify and work on. But.... The AE888 can run over 200kw and still meet Euro 6, and be more fuel efficient than FA20t. Plus you can wind up the wick on a AE888 alot more before you and need to worry about luching the engine. That is one of many examples but, different people want different things, and different things will turn off different people. Don't get me wrong, you get a really fun car for a small outlay, but, there's always compromises. Meh, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has got one.
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The AE888 is turbocharged, transverse and was designed to be put in anything VW makes up to the golf R. An NA motor is a different beast altogether, and Subaru had less money to pump into the engine considering our RWD chassis costs about 5K more to make than a FWD car.
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As for traverse, it isn't hard to swap out at the factory, Nissan, Mazda and Toyota have been doing it for years. As for the additional cost, I'm happy to pay more for a better package, but in the end they are massed produced disposable cars, but I would be happy to drop around 50k AUD (about 35k USD) on the right car from factory. Meh Dreams of rainbows and unicorns
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So transverse vs longitudinal engine availability is definitely not a deal breaker if Toyota really wanted to use one of their existing IL4s in the 86. Low CoG is overblown as the motivating reason for the Subi donk (does anyone think an MX-5/Miata has a high CoG?), it’s as much to do with cost savings and relying on Subi’s platform as anything else. Quote:
Having said that, I do agree, I personally would pay more for a nicer engine (pretty much what I am about to do), but I may not represent the average twin buyer. It’s a volume and numbers game for Toyota, and don’t forget that with the B48 2.0 Supra on the scene, the niche for the next 86 in the product stack has a definite ceiling - Toyota won’t let a cheaper 86 outshine the 2.0 Supra, for the same reason Porsche keep base 911 performance just above the Cayman’s. |
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