How to destroy an engine in 7 days: My review of FA20club.com’s services & experience

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by King Tut

I don't know why his FR-S with P&L kit hasn't sold yet.

I can't explain it either. My only guess is it's because he "raced" it autocrossing.

[Victor Draken]

Originally Posted by jamesm

If you want something done right, you have to do it yourself, period. Friends don't let friends drive e-tunes, especially when the damn car doesn't even come with a proper wideband. Anyone who says they can tune your FI car remotely is acknowledging that they're about to perform some half-assed work.

Do it yourself, find a local shop that can, or buy a mustang and get your power that way. How many times does this have to be demonstrated before people get the point?

I've spent countless nights fixing locals e-tunes, and will be fixing another of Toni's tonight. It's not rocket science, just read the f*ckin manual and spend the time. If you can hold a job that affords you an FI 86, you're surely smart enough to grok suck spit bang blow and a few dozen lookup tables. It's not magic. It's not voodoo. It's a well-defined process with accepted best practices and quantifiable results. Brain > wallet.

I think some tuners are able to tune an FI 86 remotely but it takes time and money, if they can tune a NA why not a FI?

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by Victor Draken

I think some tuners are able to tune an FI 86 remotely but it takes time and money, if they can tune a NA why not a FI?

because with NA you target an AFR that the stock sensor can read accurately. boosted you don't. so... yeah.

really... ask any tuner if they'd recommend an e-tune to a guy that lived down the street. they wouldn't, and there's a reason. it's a compromise.

[nelsmar]

Originally Posted by jamesm

because with NA you target an AFR that the stock sensor can read accurately. boosted you don't. so... yeah.

really... ask any tuner if they'd recommend an e-tune to a guy that lived down the street. they wouldn't, and there's a reason. it's a compromise.

And even with a wideband installed its a tedious amount of work to instruct people exactly what to do and how to stop. Or find a way to make the ecu shut down in these scenarios and make sure it works perfect. lol. If it is a kit and enough are done for a really solid basemap and they have a wideband its possible to do but just easier to do in person.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by jamesm

It's not rocket science, just read the f*ckin manual and spend the time. If you can hold a job that affords you an FI 86, you're surely smart enough to grok suck spit bang blow and a few dozen lookup tables. It's not magic. It's not voodoo. It's a well-defined process with accepted best practices and quantifiable results. Brain > wallet.

Can you direct me to this "manual" and "well defined process"?

Im honestly curious and have asked before, but I just get the "read the forums" crap answers.

I am really interested in a book that explains the basics of tuning and also would love to get my hands on a factory manual that explains the basics of how the FA20 ECU code works.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by stugray

Can you direct me to this "manual" and "well defined process"?

Im honestly curious and have asked before, but I just get the "read the forums" crap answers.

I am really interested in a book that explains the basics of tuning and also would love to get my hands on a factory manual that explains the basics of how the FA20 ECU code works.

Bad noodles guide is a good start. Ecutek's documentation provided with their software is also great and will get you started.

[kcam86]

Originally Posted by jamesm

Bad noodles guide is a good start. Ecutek's documentation provided with their software is also great and will get you started.

Thank you for the great tip. I don't intend on tuning my self but for the sake of having a better understanding I'll be reading all of the suggested material.

[Noob4Life]

Yeah I'd never try and tune my car FI without a new wideband. That was one of the first things my tuner checked before doing any changing. I read your whole post and it really makes me glad I went to a local tuner (even if it was his first time tuning an FA20) and not an e-tune. Sorry about your engine man I hope it all works out for you.

[Bach415]

@jamesm Aside from bad noodle's guide, is there any video you would recommend in regards to basic tuning? Reading can only do so much without visuals.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Bach415

@jamesm Aside from bad noodle's guide, is there any video you would recommend in regards to basic tuning? Reading can only do so much without visuals.

The best visual is going to be investing in a Tactrix cable and downloading EcuFlash/RomRaider. Follow the guides as to what to log and how to adjust your MAF scaling.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by Bach415

@jamesm Aside from bad noodle's guide, is there any video you would recommend in regards to basic tuning? Reading can only do so much without visuals.

i have a series of screencasts that show the basics, and more coming down the line. search the forum for 'screencast'.

[cdrazic93]

jamesm....

This guy.

Always nice to see others like myself simply interested in how tuning works, yet don't have the time, nor supplies or experience to actually tune a car. Props to you sir for helping the community.

[Scalzo]

Wow really sucks for the car and your loss of money
Only thing that is worrying me is. I'm going to Florida to get it tuned . because I want it 100% proper.

[Yruyur]

My buddy posted the link to your thread on the gen coupe forum.

Looks like they are well aware of Toni and his ways.

http://www.gencoupe.com/general-disc...lems-tune.html

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