07-11-2013, 03:12 AM | #113 | |
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07-11-2013, 03:23 AM | #114 |
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OK, stop inventing an acronym "MAT" right here. It's either IAT or ACT. OEM's call it IAT whether it's n/a or forced induction. The problem that needs solving is how to move the IAT sensor to the right place, after the supercharger. Shouldn't be a problem for some of experienced tuners. Then the IAT-related strategies in the ECU can work properly (e.g. spark retard vs. IAT, which is crucial).
I would be very surprised if there wasn't an off-the-shelf ntc air temp sensor with a similar linearisation curve to the one built into the MAF sensor. You will want an open-element one, not solid, for faster response. Just a case of finding somewhere suitable in the plenum to mount it and patch it into the wiring loom/harness. Let's not bodge stuff chaps! |
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All the opcon autorotor based chargers like kennel bell, HPS, lyshom and sprintex etc have had no issues that I am aware of. One suggestion from a few of the experienced supercharger guys were spraying fuel precharger instead of using water/meth sprays.
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Mike, Look, while I appreciate your response it's not answering the questions. We are asking for objective data. You can strip your proprietary advanced data out of your logs to protect some of your tuning methods. This would allow you to provide the basic data we want from your sessions in less that 5 minutes online. I don't understand why this is like pulling teeth?
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In any case, We're digressing from the point. Still would like to hear what real world IATs this kit sees at 7psi. We'll collectively come up with a cooling solutions later. Edit: I decided to update myself. Here are some fun pics of pre-blower meth sprayers and what happened to them No thanks. Last edited by RYU; 07-11-2013 at 01:23 PM. |
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As you said, with NA applications, the air temp sensor will most often be at the beginning of the intake tract. In forced induction applications it seems to depend on the manufacturer. I think at times they make assumptions about the efficiency of the turbo and inter-cooler etc and still just use a temp sensor at the beginning of the intake tract, the evo 8 and 9 was this way. I agree it would be best to place a new sensor in the post compression air stream and wire it back into the stock harness so the compensation tables are actually useful. The sensor scale table is in the rom so it the new sensor does not have to match, just needs to be known.
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A new vid of the 1320 Mini with a Sprintex. This is the same S5-210 and the BRZs can be cut to the same weight if not better for the same 12.50 timeslips @ 108-109mph, IMO.
[ame]http://youtu.be/4pNqIoI0QKA[/ame]
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I r special. Thought it was the 250hp dyno.
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Good numbers. I really want to see this kit at higher boost levels - 10-12psi with intercooler. Any plans? Has innovate even released an intercooler/smaller pulleys yet?
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No, not yet. The first units arrived this week. Give it some time.
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The intercooled option is available in Australia, and when talking to some retailers they are kinda baffled that you guys are even running a non-intercooled option. Ill post results in the next week or so when i get the car back (on holiday at the moment) but i am hoping for some good, safe results. Hopefully you guys will get the intercooled option soon!
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Got to install one of these Innovate kits today, very complete package, super smooth install (around 4 hours). Tuning tomorrow. Heres a link to my Facebook with a photo album.
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