Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic - Page 15 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

buditjoenawan · 07-12-2013, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRE-Erich

If you run an air-to-water intercooler setup the pressure drop is usually less than 0.3psi on most cores.

I would love to see measured numbers on this. Laminova claims their cores have low pressure drops, but ONLY across their cores. Once you house that in some kind of housing, pressure drops precipitously.

budi

xxscaxx · 07-12-2013, 02:19 PM

All I can say its a GIANT tease staring at a complete install but not able to turn the car on...lol.

evo4g63 · 07-12-2013, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

All I can say its a GIANT tease staring at a complete install but not able to turn the car on...lol.

I bet it is. I can't wait for mine to come in. Any idea as to when you will receive your tune file back?

xxscaxx · 07-12-2013, 02:51 PM

I've been waiting for it.. not too sure.

wrxgoose · 07-12-2013, 02:58 PM

tune is what i'm waiting on. once I get the map from @FA20Club.com, i'll be starting my install.

swift996 · 07-12-2013, 03:00 PM

I got my map, install begins in about 2 hours. I'll post an update tonight. If I get done in time, I might hit the dyno down in Richmond tomorrow morning.

xxscaxx · 07-12-2013, 03:16 PM

nice... keep us posted! I'm jealous you have your map

lol

DarrenDriven · 07-12-2013, 06:12 PM

Watching anxiously!

MattF · 07-12-2013, 07:38 PM

Well I am still waiting on FA20_club.com to send my cable but my car just got a CEL with P0303 and P219A. So it doesn't look like I will be doing my install anytime soon..

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2

xxscaxx · 07-12-2013, 08:07 PM

Tony is crazy busy today. I got impatient and gave him a call just to send a reminder about the map lol.

I drove the car around, but i'm going to reserve my judgements until Tony makes one or two revisions.

I was expecting the s/c to be louder not going to lie. Then again i'm pretty much stock as I only have a catback, so i'm not sure if that makes any difference.

swift996 · 07-12-2013, 08:40 PM

DOES ANYONE have a diagram of the vacuum routing? I messed up somewhere as I expected because the directions are non-existent for the hose extensions. I have no idea where I went wrong.

nokia7190 · 07-12-2013, 10:10 PM

Moto-east, Mike have my SC installed today. Drop off at noon, pick up at 5:30 evening.
I drove a manual transmission.
First impression (acceleration):
1) car drive felt like a 2010 WRX.
2) Fifth gear drives felt like third gear.
3) Sixth gear drives felt like fourth gear.

regal · 07-13-2013, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech

Think about what you are comparing! The compression ratios between those engines are light years apart, and factory boosted engines are generally built with different parts than N/A engines (materials, clearances, heat tolerances, etc.).

'84 non-intercooled Turbo Buick stock compression ratio - 8.0:1

2013 FA20 engine in FT86 stock compression ratio - 12.5:1

That Buick's final compression ratio @ 8psi is 12.4:1 - still less than the FT86 from the factory before the supercharger.

The FT86's final compression ratio @ 8psi is 19.4:1 - even N/A Diesel engines don't run that high...and they need heat for their compression cycle.

Those 2 engines do not make for such a great comparison, as they are far too different.

The Buick ran 14 psi ! Final Compression ratio of 15.6:1 according to page 42 of Perkins-Davis Supercharging Handbook. Many ran it 18psi no issues.

No doubt we are treading on new territory with forced induction on this high compression FA20 (your co. included). Most of us thought FI would be impossible for this engine but the DI proved us wrong, so I think its too early to be fear-mongering about the lack of intercooler. The data logs will tell the story.

xxscaxx · 07-13-2013, 01:22 AM

For the people that installed their supercharger. Did you have any clearance issues on the driver side on the front of the flange that bolts to the block? Mine was hitting in that area. I was still able to bolt the supercharger down but it was off a tiny bit (was able to bolt it down using a socket wrench).

07-12-2013, 02:58 PM	#201
wrxgoose WUB WUB Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Charlotte Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 313 Thanked 1,573 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 52 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	tune is what i'm waiting on. once I get the map from @FA20Club.com, i'll be starting my install. __________________ Build thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40850 no more blower power

07-12-2013, 03:00 PM	#202
swift996 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 712 Thanked 954 Times in 545 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got my map, install begins in about 2 hours. I'll post an update tonight. If I get done in time, I might hit the dyno down in Richmond tomorrow morning. __________________ Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread) 2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

07-12-2013, 07:38 PM	#205
MattF Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: s13<EP3<s14<RSX TYPE-S<WRX<GTI<FR-S Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 183 Thanks: 19 Thanked 39 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well I am still waiting on FA20_club.com to send my cable but my car just got a CEL with P0303 and P219A. So it doesn't look like I will be doing my install anytime soon.. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2 Last edited by MattF; 07-12-2013 at 08:06 PM.

07-12-2013, 08:40 PM	#207
swift996 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 712 Thanked 954 Times in 545 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	DOES ANYONE have a diagram of the vacuum routing? I messed up somewhere as I expected because the directions are non-existent for the hose extensions. I have no idea where I went wrong. __________________ Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread) 2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

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xxscaxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: New York Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 458 Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	All I can say its a GIANT tease staring at a complete install but not able to turn the car on...lol.

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xxscaxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: New York Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 458 Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	nice... keep us posted! I'm jealous you have your map lol

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xxscaxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: New York Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 458 Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Tony is crazy busy today. I got impatient and gave him a call just to send a reminder about the map lol. I drove the car around, but i'm going to reserve my judgements until Tony makes one or two revisions. I was expecting the s/c to be louder not going to lie. Then again i'm pretty much stock as I only have a catback, so i'm not sure if that makes any difference.

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nokia7190 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ limited WRB Location: NJ Posts: 21 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Moto-east, Mike have my SC installed today. Drop off at noon, pick up at 5:30 evening. I drove a manual transmission. First impression (acceleration): 1) car drive felt like a 2010 WRX. 2) Fifth gear drives felt like third gear. 3) Sixth gear drives felt like fourth gear.

07-13-2013, 01:22 AM	#210
xxscaxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: New York Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 458 Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For the people that installed their supercharger. Did you have any clearance issues on the driver side on the front of the flange that bolts to the block? Mine was hitting in that area. I was still able to bolt the supercharger down but it was off a tiny bit (was able to bolt it down using a socket wrench).

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