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07-07-2023, 04:06 PM | #43 | |
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There are a lot of multi-millionaires racing spec miata and spec boxter type races for a reason.
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It's only insurance fraud if you get caught
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Calling in a claim will ruin your history and more or less blacklist you. Never really felt like that when I lived in the states. But anyway lol
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It's a lesson you have to learn the hard away it seems, lol. Everyone wants to track their street car. I felt that way. Once I actually got a track car ($5k Miata), I was kicking myself for swapping pads and wheels before each track day and hoping I could drive to work the next day and rock chips on my beautiful car and compromised alignment settings and blah blah blah. Not to mention, I saved enough in consumables after about 10-15 track days to outright pay for the 86 and all its the consumables. My buddy is about $60k deep in making his 997 Carrera into a dual purpose car. After breaking his control arm on curbing, finding a ride home and then getting a ride from me back up there a few days later at the next member day, I think he's finally coming around to just getting a damn track car. He's probably depreciated that car enough to buy a miata, let alone the actual cost of parts and consumables. I didn't even want to track the C7 anymore. My learning curve spiked, it was less stressful, I could drive it harder (both due to lower limits and financial fears) and overall enjoyed tracking it more. Plus my hourly operational cost was much lower. About a month ago, my McLeod clutch on my 86 decided to blow up and take out my whole transmission along the way. I was annoyed, but I just packed up and went home. Not having a transmission in my street car would have sucked a lot. Nothing better than sipping coffee on the way to and back home from the track in my SUV, lol.
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Because in my 37 years on earth and across two countries I have never been in a position space wise to own a tow vehicle a trailer and a "Race car"
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That is where I am at. My car is driveable and registered, but it is not really a street car and I don't use it as one. It gets trailered to where it is going.
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I live downtown and don't have much space either. I rent a garage at the track for $300/mo. Much cheaper than parking here, with much more room. If I lived in burbs, I'd trailer. Saves insurance cost (on trailer or car that gets driven to the track) as well.
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Maybe one day I will have a house with a garage along with a truck and trailer
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To be fair, it is kind of a tipping point where costs start getting ridiculous if you're not willing to deal with discomfort. Though, thinking about it, a non-dedicated car might simply be deferring costs if something happens and you weren't covered so I think you've got a really strong point there.
If you want or need to tow now you need a street vehicle that can tow decently, if you don't want to deal with renting a UHaul trailer every event and doing that whole dance then you're buying a trailer, if you don't have a place to store a trailer at your home you're renting a storage spot, and so on it goes. If the car ends up deregistered you're also towing the thing for alignments, dyno appointments, etc which is a pain in the ass, especially if you have to keep your trailer at a lot. Pretty easy to wind up in a spot where you've structured your entire life around this hobby*, for better or for worse. * hobby => bottomless blackhole for money edit: On the insurance side of things, I put a $20k caged Miata through a fence four or five years ago. After doing all of the work myself (with the sole exception of repainting the back half of the car) including cutting out both quarter panels, reskinning a door, etc and paying $2k in track damage I was out somewhere in the $6-8k area. I have a Hagery agreed value policy on my BRZ that covers it in the pits, on the trailer, etc. I also have a full coverage policy on it through another company that I rely on the handful of times a year it gets driven on the street to the dyno or something similar within 5-10 miles of my home. I don't carry track insurance, but I would if I ran somewhere like Lime Rock.
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I think it is more practical to say "don't track your only vehicle." The vast majority of people I see at track don't have dedicated track cars.
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It's always easy for people with the money to afford more than one car, and many track days at that, incl. relevant maintenance, to say not go to the track with your only car .
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