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Old 10-08-2021, 05:19 PM   #1289
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This is interesting. Have links and sources?

I want to look into this further.
I see he's crammed his antivax **** up your ass and deposited his stupid idea deep within you. You go from "I can't find proof of bullshit on the internet" to "it must be a conspiracy" to "tell me more about your conspiracy" in 1 second flat. You're faster than a Plaid.


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8 hours later...nothing, not even a sore arm.
I wish. Alas, my immune system is hardcore.

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No outbreaks from packed football stadiums
Ah, yes. Florida. 9/50 for average daily COVID deaths per capita right now. A model for the nation. If only California were so reckless, we'd no longer have a housing problem. Damn, 259/100,000 despite being late to the COVID game. Hats off to you, Penis State. California is only at 176/100,000, and we have so many more people to murder through our own stupidity. Why, if California was just as stupid as Florida, we'd have at least an additional 33,000 dead people. That's 10 9/11s! I've always wanted more 9/11s. Probably more since we got hit by COVID early and did that dumbass stay at home thing for a while. Shit.

Of course I underestimate. I mean, California does more testing per capita, so we catch more of our actual cases. I also hear Florida likes to play hide the salami when it comes to COVID death statistics.

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I see he's crammed his antivax **** up your ass and deposited his stupid idea deep within you. You go from "I can't find proof of bullshit on the internet" to "it must be a conspiracy" to "tell me more about your conspiracy" in 1 second flat. You're faster than a Plaid.




I wish. Alas, my immune system is hardcore.



Ah, yes. Florida. 9/50 for average daily COVID deaths per capita right now. A model for the nation. If only California were so reckless, we'd no longer have a housing problem. Damn, 259/100,000 despite being late to the COVID game. Hats off to you, Penis State. California is only at 176/100,000, and we have so many more people to murder through our own stupidity. Why, if California was just as stupid as Florida, we'd have at least an additional 33,000 dead people. That's 10 9/11s! I've always wanted more 9/11s. Probably more since we got hit by COVID early and did that dumbass stay at home thing for a while. Shit.

Of course I underestimate. I mean, California does more testing per capita, so we catch more of our actual cases. I also hear Florida likes to play hide the salami when it comes to COVID death statistics.

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Yes I agree. The more Californians who stay there the better. Please dont leave
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I'm new here, but I will chime in with my two cents, so take it for what it is worth.

I've worked in the biologics industry since 1996, both in for-profit blood plasma procurement and non-profit community blood banking. During that time, I have worked with a number of specialty plasma programs that required donors to receive vaccinations to boost antibodies, including Anti-D, Anti-HBs (Hepatitis B), Anthrax, and most recently Covid19.

During the initial shutdown last year, we were contacted by a company to establish a temporary source plasma collection facility at a prominent hospital to begin collecting plasma from donors that had recovered from Covid19. The intent was to use the antibody rich plasma for R&D to develop a possible vaccine or treatment.

In July of 2020 the center opened and we started collecting plasma. Donor titers were checked every visit and remained relatively steady across donations (people can donate plasma up to twice per week).

In the first quarter of this year, as the vaccines began rolling out, the donors began receiving vaccines to boost their antibody levels. What we found instead was a drastic reduction in antibody levels. It became so severe that we were collecting samples for titer testing before allowing a donor to donate, even if they had a high titer previously. Simultaneously, donors that did not receive a vaccine maintained their elevated titer levels. By the end of the first quarter it was determined there was insufficient antibody rich product available to continue operations and the project was mothballed in early April.

This was the first red flag for me, as the purpose of a vaccine is to boost antibody production so that the body is prepared to combat an infection, not strip naturally occurring antibodies from the immune system. The second red flag was when the Red Cross announced it would no longer accept vaccinated individuals for participation in their convalescent plasma program due to diminished antibodies being detected in plasma collected from vaccinated individuals.

As more and more studies are published, many encouraging ongoing vaccination beyond the initial two shots, one has to wonder about the efficacy of the vaccines on the market. The manufacturers indicate the vaccines do not prevent contraction or transmission of Covid19, they merely lessen symptoms, meaning a vaccinated individual may unknowingly transmit the disease to others. Conversely, an unvaccinated individual will likely become symptomatic and will know when to isolate to prevent transmission.

While vaccine related adverse event reporting is contested, the fact remains there are adverse events directly related to receipt of the vaccines.

Anecdotally, in July I was hospitalized for bilateral pulmonary embolisms (blood clots in both lungs). Every tech, nurse, doctor, and PA asked me the same question - Which vaccine did you get? Not "have you been vaccinated," but "which vaccine?" When I explained I hadn't received a vaccine (had Covid last year and antibody levels are still strong) they were perplexed. I asked if it was common for vaccinated individuals to be hospitalized for blood clots they indicated it wasn't a daily occurrence, but it happened frequently.

One question to consider, If the vaccine works to protect the vaccinated from the disease, why would the unvaccinated need to be vaccinated to protect those that are already vaccinated?
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I see he's crammed his antivax **** up your ass and deposited his stupid idea deep within you. You go from "I can't find proof of bullshit on the internet" to "it must be a conspiracy" to "tell me more about your conspiracy" in 1 second flat. You're faster than a Plaid.




I wish. Alas, my immune system is hardcore.



Ah, yes. Florida. 9/50 for average daily COVID deaths per capita right now. A model for the nation. If only California were so reckless, we'd no longer have a housing problem. Damn, 259/100,000 despite being late to the COVID game. Hats off to you, Penis State. California is only at 176/100,000, and we have so many more people to murder through our own stupidity. Why, if California was just as stupid as Florida, we'd have at least an additional 33,000 dead people. That's 10 9/11s! I've always wanted more 9/11s. Probably more since we got hit by COVID early and did that dumbass stay at home thing for a while. Shit.

Of course I underestimate. I mean, California does more testing per capita, so we catch more of our actual cases. I also hear Florida likes to play hide the salami when it comes to COVID death statistics.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...251838913.html
Don't forget that not every "Covid related death" is actually a death from Covid. It simply means the patient had Covid when they died, not that it was the primary cause. They could have been hit by a truck, had a stroke, a heart attack, died in a car accident, or a gunshot wound. Once you sort through comorbidity data the actual fatality rate where Covid is the primary factor is roughly 6% of the total. If the government hadn't monetized diagnosis ($13k in funding per fatality) the numbers would be more reliable.

Additionally, at the initial onset Florida was flooded with patients from New York and New Jersey, which I'm sure padded the number of fatalities as well as boosted the transmission in the state.

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One question to consider, If the vaccine works to protect the vaccinated from the disease, why would the unvaccinated need to be vaccinated to protect those that are already vaccinated?
why would someone who has "worked in the biologics industry since 1996" be asking this question?
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SportyTaco86 I am grateful for you pointing out a possible conspiracy, exclusive to the US probably for financial reasons. I suppose as the #1 export partner, my government is complicit not to arouse any suspicion in the US universe? We have universal healthcare see, and this stuff just creates deficit here. Nobody gets extra bonuses except maybe for overtime hours. But there it creates $14k/person admitted +++ cha ching.

And also I do appreciate you pointing out that natural immunity holds up whereby the mRNA vaccines (assuming you are referring to those) causes a collapse of antibody production. And somehow in doing this it makes the vaccinated people less likely to experience severe symptoms and hospitalization. Curious.
Plus it keeps contagious people asymptomatic which makes them less suspect to be tested and quarantined. So in fact the vaccines are actually causing unvaccinated people to get sick. Maybe this way the vaccine companies force people to take the vaccines, right? Because if the virus doesn't get you through normal means there's all these vaccinated asymtomatic infected people around like henchmen for the vaccine companies. If Fauci backs off the mask stuff a bit it throttles up the process.

So what do you do other than draw, separate and test blood exactly? Are you some type of scientist, or an epidemiologist? I'm just curious because this is some real eye opening stuff. The most disturbing part is that the vaccines are knocking out the natural antibodies. But are they replacing them with effective but slightly modified antibodies? That would be considered a curious artifact if so.

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Aside from being a more likely transmitter, is there anything else I need to be concerned with having been double vaxxed? What more could big pharma want than sell my govt a vaccine booster down the road. Is it some future extortion scheme?

In answer to your paradoxical question, the unvaccinated must vaccinate to protect themselves and the healthcare system in their community as well. Also, hopefully to curb the rate of potential harmful mutation from ocurring.
Or it's all a conspiracy and you got a glimpse thru the key hole.

Oh, and it shouldnt count if they died in Florida if they are from Jersey??? Or you mean the vector of transmission to FL was those areas. Questionable and irrelevant. They were infected most likely in FL and fell ill and died in Florida hospitals. Statistically a lot of surplus mortality has taken place. So are you going to say there was a sudden surge in comorbidities to blame? Sure , the virus is a walk in the park for so many. Oh, and pregnancy needs to be reclassified as a comorbidity?

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My question is, if there's the possibility of money to be mad, why?
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I see he's crammed his antivax **** up your ass and deposited his stupid idea deep within you. You go from "I can't find proof of bullshit on the internet" to "it must be a conspiracy" to "tell me more about your conspiracy" in 1 second flat. You're faster than a Plaid.
Careful your true colors are showing.

Helps to know/have basic reading comprehension btw… lol.

But,
I guess asking for sources for a statement/claim is no longer acceptable anymore. Guess you want everyone to just blindly follow and never ask questions or request proper validation.
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86TOYO2K17, I think the point here was that you appeared to take the bait, hook line and sinker. I hope not.
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86TOYO2K17, I think the point here was that you appeared to take the bate, hook line and sinker. I hope not.
Asking for sources is usually a reasonable way to identify the cultists. They insist you must find them... Or similar. I've barely skimmed anything here of late,just too much garbage, so maybe I missed something.
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Hey, you can change the tone of this thread completely by blocking 1 person, maybe 2.
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