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Old 10-07-2014, 05:42 PM   #5419
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I think Sprintex posted recently that it would be a ~10% increase.
I assumed that 10-12% was before additional mods, tuning and/or fuel (E85).

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I assumed that 10-12% was before additional mods, tuning and/or fuel (E85).

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We are seeing about a 10% increase in power across the powerband on E85. Now on 91 octane that is a different story, as you need to adjust the timing advance so much in the opposite direction it does not seem to do very much.

The 210+ kit is really going to shine on E85 but on 91 octane you may not see much improvement over the 210 kit. California 91 octane just does not cut it.

Now on other pump fuels in the world like 98 RON, or 93-94 octane there would be a little benefit but I do not think it will be 10%. It would be more like 5%.

Once again it will come down to fuel and ethanol will make it shine.

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Old 10-08-2014, 08:36 AM   #5422
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Old 10-08-2014, 12:26 PM   #5423
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Good job, Bill! I strongly suspect that 300whp is the most this system will deliver. Did you find any more power hiding in the cam swing for the top end? BTW, the 210 blower is rated at 300 crank hp, but also delivers 300whp+ on the Mini Coopers on E85. Better fuel definitely ups the ante. I've been noodling with our Sprintex Honda Fit and it loves 104 blue instead of E85.

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Good job, Bill! I strongly suspect that 300whp is the most this system will deliver. Did you find any more power hiding in the cam swing for the top end? BTW, the 210 blower is rated at 300 crank hp, but also delivers 300whp+ on the Mini Coopers on E85. Better fuel definitely ups the ante. I've been noodling with our Sprintex Honda Fit and it loves 104 blue instead of E85.

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You actually got me to log in to Facebook. That generally takes an act of parliament.

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Good job, Bill! I strongly suspect that 300whp is the most this system will deliver. Did you find any more power hiding in the cam swing for the top end? BTW, the 210 blower is rated at 300 crank hp, but also delivers 300whp+ on the Mini Coopers on E85. Better fuel definitely ups the ante. I've been noodling with our Sprintex Honda Fit and it loves 104 blue instead of E85.

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Glad to see you guys on here. I'm starting to get into power mods finally and really need to decide n/a vs forced induction. Do you still have CARB kits available? Either IC or non-IC
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Glad to see you guys on here. I'm starting to get into power mods finally and really need to decide n/a vs forced induction. Do you still have CARB kits available? Either IC or non-IC
Also, where do we buy the Sprintex SC kits? Or they coming out in 2015?

FT86SpeedFactory and other dealers are still showing the old Innovate kits on line.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:59 AM   #5428
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Also, where do we buy the Sprintex SC kits? Or they coming out in 2015?

FT86SpeedFactory and other dealers are still showing the old Innovate kits on line.
We are a Sprintex dealer and have the current chargers and pricing. We also have a couple of the 335 kits coming in, one of which is spoken for already, should be fun!
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We are a Sprintex dealer and have the current chargers and pricing. We also have a couple of the 335 kits coming in, one of which is spoken for already, should be fun!

Any idea why the intercooler price increased.
Now upgrading to intercooled seems kind of expensive.


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@8686 My guess is that the cost of manufacturing them went up.
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I'm jumping up and down for 335s but still waiting on the shipment. We're at the end of the food chain over here. When the costs of the inputs change, we do have to adjust. It's been a yearly affair with pricing adjustment due to the costs of those inputs.

The systems are the same, just with our logo instead. I've been shipping them for a few weeks, now.

CARB is in our corner, too. That's not something that comes and goes after it's in play. There's no re-certifying every year. The changeover to us was a bit of a hiccup, but you the end user should be just fine with registration and emissions. I've been asking about that and no one is treating us any different.
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I'm jumping up and down for 335s but still waiting on the shipment. We're at the end of the food chain over here. When the costs of the inputs change, we do have to adjust. It's been a yearly affair with pricing adjustment due to the costs of those inputs.

The systems are the same, just with our logo instead. I've been shipping them for a few weeks, now.

CARB is in our corner, too. That's not something that comes and goes after it's in play. There's no re-certifying every year. The changeover to us was a bit of a hiccup, but you the end user should be just fine with registration and emissions. I've been asking about that and no one is treating us any different.

So what happens to all the people that have innovate motorsports kits if they need warranty or whatnot? Is innovate going to honour that or will that fall to Sprintex? Also why is innovate not selling anymore...were they the test pilots and when the kit appeared successful Sprintex came in and didn't renew innovates license to sell? Please give us the info. Thanks.
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