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Old 05-11-2015, 09:58 AM   #15
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Interesting, thanks - will try using the same filter to log and see what's what. Might be a good idea to use a clean filter anyway for logging. Another problem here is that pretty much everybody are running different drop in filters which also throws a spanner into the works.

I don't think we've got ethanol in our fuel yet.
http://ethanolproducer.com/articles/...arting-in-2015

It looks like by October you should start seeing it. You'll typically see a little more LTFT at idle with the stock MAF calibration. 6-9% LTFT. If you tune the maf to 0% remember your shifting your engine load and thus shifting the ignition advance. As the fuel in my area averages E7 fairly consistently I actually use a basemap with a flex fuel map hard coded to 7% ethanol as my starting point.
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Old 05-13-2015, 04:38 AM   #16
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PI/DI ratios idle stability and knock

@sav

you might try a couple of these tweaks to pi/di ratios
alter all three tables
cold/warm/hot the same

zero out the PI up to 0.2 load this is idle for manual, makes it idle smoother and you can drop your idle back to 700 or even 650 rpm.
doing that also stopped the idle dips when air conditioner kicks in as well.

On an auto zero out to 0.3 load as it idle at more load due torque converter

you might also try altering the rpm axis where is 5200 to 6000 so it runs full DI up to 6000 or even try 6500 as DI generally more knock resistant

seethe linked info below from moto mike about max pulse widths ect.

on E85 we are actually holding full DI to 7000 rpm.

I have also altered the values in the 2400 and 2800 rows to max of 25%

you might be able to put back a bit more ignition advance doing that.






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Old 05-13-2015, 05:07 AM   #17
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Thanks Steve, will give it a try and report back.
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Hi Guys,

are you guys doing the same map work as @Damon was doing with Phoenix ?

if so can i get in on this action????
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Hi

Not sure what they're doing exactly but we've been working with @steve99 and we don't charge money for our maps.

Busy testing the direct injection tweaks with the 95 EL maps, will be ready soon, or we can load the "v1" map if you want.

We also don't have a "one size fits all" approach either so it involves loading the map then you need to do some miles to let the fuel trims settle, then we need to do some 3rd gear pulls for custom MAF scaling and then log some more later to confirm that all is running 100%.

What mods, filter, etc have you got?
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Hi SAV,

all stock... eish
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Cool, that makes it easier.
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Not sure what they're doing exactly but we've been working with @steve99 and we don't charge money for our maps.
They mos did the launch control and flat foot shifting, as well as minimal torque dip
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Cool, that makes it easier.
Nice, i'm based in Centurion.
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They mos did the launch control and flat foot shifting, as well as minimal torque dip

Yep, we've got launch control and flat foot shifting as well. As for the torque dip - check their graphs.

The graph in the first post is with Borla UEL headers.
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Nice, i'm based in Centurion.
Great, me too. Will let you know as soon as I've finished testing.
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Yep, we've got launch control and flat foot shifting as well. As for the torque dip - check their graphs.

The graph in the first post is with Borla UEL headers.
Hats of to you guys!!!!

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WOW, can't believe I missed this well done guys and were do I sign up👍


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