Any PC Gamers Around?

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by KR-S 86

I mean, I could do Intel, but that would make for a more expensive build. The A10-7850K and 7870K are APUs, which means that they have both CPU and GPU capability in one chip. Intel chips technically has GPU capability, but they absolutely fail in comparison to the Kaveri and Godavari APUs, which means I'll have to use a graphics card (no problem as I've got a GTX 650 Ti Boost that was in my main rig).

To be honest, I had a 7850K, but it seemed to have failed due to me using too much thermal paste. I still have all the parts for it, but if Intel is really that much better, then I will take it into consideration, though this will be running SteamOS exclusively and nothing else.

Ahh, I should have mentioned that this would also have been used for gaming and would have exclusively run SteamOS, as I mentioned above.

Well, if you're just replacing a CPU, I guess you can go cheap. I wouldn't expect thermal paste to kill a CPU, not anymore. Should shut the system off before the CPU fries. I think you just got good old AMD technology.

SteamOS? How many people even use that? I read it performs much worse than Windows.

As for broken CPUs with aftermarket heatsinks, well, that's the problem of the person who buys some weird-ass heatsink. That's like people who say, "I put a turbo on my car and now it done broke!"

I just keep having Intel systems stack up. If they die, it's because of something unrelated to Intel, like a dropped screw or bad solder for the Nvidia GPU.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

The only AMD system I ever bought was the least reliable and least compatible system I've ever owned. Considering how cheap Intel systems are, there is essentially zero reason to get an AMD system. If you're going for a phone, many other chip makers have great stuff, but for PC? Intel 100%.

Interesting experience. I've built dozens of PCs over the years, and about 50% were AMD back in the day when the price delta was just too big to ignore, and never had a single compatibility issue with an AMD. I will say that if the price delta is small though I usually buy the Intel chip.


I've also always used ATI/AMD video cards, going back to the "EGA Wonder" card.

[Sideways]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

The only AMD system I ever bought was the least reliable and least compatible system I've ever owned. Considering how cheap Intel systems are, there is essentially zero reason to get an AMD system. If you're going for a phone, many other chip makers have great stuff, but for PC? Intel 100%.

Even I feel the same. I have had two amd systems in the past and they both failed eventually. On the other hand, I still have one system running i7 990x that I got even before it got released to market around 6 years ago and its still running strong without any failure. I know intel system cost just a little more than amd, but they hold there value more than amd and lost longer than amd to justify spending little extra.

[EAGLE5]

My constantly crashing nas4free amd box is now a rock solid i3 box. I will never buy amd again.

[Clipdat]

LOL wtf. Thanks for the laugh.

Originally Posted by radroach

Also from a political standpoint, I don't support Intel as I think they are part of Israeli spy programs and are purposefully building in backdoors for NSA, and coding in hardware DRM, etc.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

LOL wtf. Thanks for the laugh.

This ^^^

I'd like to know why he thinks that...

[Vladimir Tutin]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Well, if you're just replacing a CPU, I guess you can go cheap. I wouldn't expect thermal paste to kill a CPU, not anymore. Should shut the system off before the CPU fries. I think you just got good old AMD technology.

SteamOS? How many people even use that? I read it performs much worse than Windows.

As for broken CPUs with aftermarket heatsinks, well, that's the problem of the person who buys some weird-ass heatsink. That's like people who say, "I put a turbo on my car and now it done broke!"

I just keep having Intel systems stack up. If they die, it's because of something unrelated to Intel, like a dropped screw or bad solder for the Nvidia GPU.

I have a buddy that literally killed their CPU with thermal paste a month ago. But to be fair he emptied a whole tube of it onto the CPU.

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Vladimir Tutin

I have a buddy that literally killed their CPU with thermal paste a month ago. But to be fair he emptied a whole tube of it onto the CPU.

also depends on the thermal paste type, kind of hard to short a chip when using a non conductive thermal paste (ceramic and others)

[radroach]

@Clipdat
@jsimon7777
@Andrew025

Let's see what we've got going on in 2015: Windows 10 = spyware botnet, NSA has backdoors in every (FCC approved) modern phone and chipset, the good majority of our computer chips, by Intel, are designed in Israel. It makes sense that one of the NSA's strategies is to embed backdoors and spying tech into these chips. It would make sense that the NSA can outsource its development of spying tech to Israel to protect itself from public scrutiny. And Israel absolutely has a stake in having a strong spying / hacking industry, see the reasoning for the stuxnet worm attack.

If you want more info, just look at what Richard Stallman - founder of GNU, and his rejection of nonfree technology. He uses some weird russian MIPS-processor laptop and custom GNU/Linux, won't even touch a windows/mac/x86 based machine because it's already compromised out of the factory. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html

I hope to not jack the thread any further!

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by radroach

@Clipdat
@jsimon7777
@Andrew025

Let's see what we've got going on in 2015: Windows 10 = spyware botnet, NSA has backdoors in every (FCC approved) modern phone and chipset, the good majority of our computer chips, by Intel, are designed in Israel. It makes sense that one of the NSA's strategies is to embed backdoors and spying tech into these chips. It would make sense that the NSA can outsource its development of spying tech to Israel to protect itself from public scrutiny. And Israel absolutely has a stake in having a strong spying / hacking industry, see the reasoning for the stuxnet worm attack.

If you want more info, just look at what Richard Stallman - founder of GNU, and his rejection of nonfree technology. He uses some weird russian MIPS-processor laptop and custom GNU/Linux, won't even touch a windows/mac/x86 based machine because it's already compromised out of the factory. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html

I hope to not jack the thread any further!

You should probably take off the tin foil hat and take your medication

[EAGLE5]

So, to answer my question, yes, you are paranoid much. If the government seriously wanted to watch what you're doing, having an AMD chip or some Russian MIPS wouldn't make a damned bit of difference.

Originally Posted by radroach

@Clipdat
@jsimon7777
@Andrew025

Let's see what we've got going on in 2015: Windows 10 = spyware botnet, NSA has backdoors in every (FCC approved) modern phone and chipset, the good majority of our computer chips, by Intel, are designed in Israel. It makes sense that one of the NSA's strategies is to embed backdoors and spying tech into these chips. It would make sense that the NSA can outsource its development of spying tech to Israel to protect itself from public scrutiny. And Israel absolutely has a stake in having a strong spying / hacking industry, see the reasoning for the stuxnet worm attack.

If you want more info, just look at what Richard Stallman - founder of GNU, and his rejection of nonfree technology. He uses some weird russian MIPS-processor laptop and custom GNU/Linux, won't even touch a windows/mac/x86 based machine because it's already compromised out of the factory. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html

I hope to not jack the thread any further!

[elBarto]

[fumanchu1]

also

[KR-S]

So, Steam Winter sale. Anyone buying any more shit?

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