Most effective ways to make a "fast" NA car - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Kronos · 02-13-2014, 02:16 AM

My plans for this car are pretty straightforward and to the point.

(not including installation costs)

Open Flash Tablet e85 tune 499$

Open Flash Header $645 or $535 if purchased with Open Flash Tablet

Mfactory 4.67 Final Drive Gear or Cusco 4.556 Final Drive Gear $750-$1100

I have a feeling this combo might make this car as quick, if not slightly quicker than an s2000. Just a guess tho.

I was curious if anyone else had plans similar to these or perhaps another combination to make a quick NA frs/brz/86

StormTrooper · 02-13-2014, 02:30 AM

Axel exchange aluminum drive shaft and shorai lfx36 battery.

Good for nearly 40lbs off.... That plus your mods should be decent.

With e85 should make it faster than a S2000....Tires would be needed to keep up on the track

Captain Snooze · 02-13-2014, 03:27 AM

I don't know your driving experience but driver education helps most cars go faster.

brn12345 · 02-13-2014, 07:06 AM

Biggest improvement by far for me was when I installed headers.

jamesm · 02-13-2014, 08:57 AM

new fbm intake manifold should be out soon.

mrk1 · 02-13-2014, 09:13 AM

Final drive

brn12345 · 02-13-2014, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm

new fbm intake manifold should be out soon.

Any details on this? Links?

s2d4 · 02-13-2014, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm

new fbm intake manifold should be out soon.

How will/does it improve na performance?

Rue · 02-13-2014, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kronos

Mfactory 4.67 Final Drive Gear or Cusco 4.556 Final Drive Gear $750-$1100

I was curious if anyone else had plans similar to these or perhaps another combination to make a quick NA frs/brz/86

We used the 4.56 Final Drive from Weir Performance. Got that plus his solid pinion spacer and shims included for just over $300 shipped. Have about 1000 miles on it so far with no issues. One of the best buys so far.

He doesn't have it listed on his site but you can call him up and tell him what you need and he'll get you set up.

http://weirperformance.com/

jamesm · 02-13-2014, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2d4

How will/does it improve na performance?

no one knows yet... they're just now beginning development. it should certainly be an improvement, i'd hope.

RehabJeff86 · 02-13-2014, 11:18 AM

I run OFT, Nameless over/front pipe combo, Tomei 60S, Raceseng S2 pulley kit, PST CF DS, Shorai battery
On the way- Nameless header, Toyota 4.556 final drive, and OS Giken LSD
Wish i can run e85 but not practical at the track cuz I would need to bring 50 gallons of e85 on each track day

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s2d4 · 02-13-2014, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

Wish i can run e85 but not practical at the track cuz I would need to bring 50 gallons of e85 on each track day

Do you already bring 38 gallons to each track day?

RehabJeff86 · 02-13-2014, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2d4

Do you already bring 38 gallons to each track day?

No, i use 100 Octane provided at the track

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industrial · 02-13-2014, 11:27 AM

That's pretty much what I've done. Full exhaust and tune. I also am messing with the rotating parts. Lightweight wheels/tires, pulleys, flywheel, brakes, driveshaft and 4.56 rear end. Dropped about ~70 pounds of rotating mass and you really can feel it. Car just rips...it's so responsive.

I've done some other lightening mods (battery, rear seats, trunk stuff) but don't plan to go extreme. The car is sleeping for the winter currently but I plan to do a few HPDEs this year and it should be a blast. I think it'll keep up with mild s2ks and such. If it doesn't the problem is me!

02-13-2014, 02:16 AM	#1
Kronos Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Asphalt FR-S MT Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 352 Thanks: 324 Thanked 126 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Most effective ways to make a "fast" NA car My plans for this car are pretty straightforward and to the point. (not including installation costs) Open Flash Tablet e85 tune 499$ Open Flash Header $645 or $535 if purchased with Open Flash Tablet Mfactory 4.67 Final Drive Gear or Cusco 4.556 Final Drive Gear $750-$1100 I have a feeling this combo might make this car as quick, if not slightly quicker than an s2000. Just a guess tho. I was curious if anyone else had plans similar to these or perhaps another combination to make a quick NA frs/brz/86 Last edited by Kronos; 02-14-2014 at 12:54 PM. Reason: Edited for Clarity

02-13-2014, 03:27 AM	#3
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RehabJeff86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 WhiteOut FR-S Location: Dublin,CA Posts: 969 Thanks: 899 Thanked 492 Times in 306 Posts Mentioned: 67 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I run OFT, Nameless over/front pipe combo, Tomei 60S, Raceseng S2 pulley kit, PST CF DS, Shorai battery On the way- Nameless header, Toyota 4.556 final drive, and OS Giken LSD Wish i can run e85 but not practical at the track cuz I would need to bring 50 gallons of e85 on each track day Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkfQ __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S whiteout 2012 Porsche Panamera S carbon grey 2008 Range Rover Sport SS black - sold 2004 BMW M3 alpine wies - sold

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industrial Add lightness! Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 17' WRX Location: Boston Posts: 1,253 Thanks: 380 Thanked 888 Times in 411 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's pretty much what I've done. Full exhaust and tune. I also am messing with the rotating parts. Lightweight wheels/tires, pulleys, flywheel, brakes, driveshaft and 4.56 rear end. Dropped about ~70 pounds of rotating mass and you really can feel it. Car just rips...it's so responsive. I've done some other lightening mods (battery, rear seats, trunk stuff) but don't plan to go extreme. The car is sleeping for the winter currently but I plan to do a few HPDEs this year and it should be a blast. I think it'll keep up with mild s2ks and such. If it doesn't the problem is me!

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